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Old April 1, 2019, 13:40   #11
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From what I can tell, it seems harder because it *is* harder. Blood falcons and other monster buffs will make the beginning levels tougher.
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Old April 1, 2019, 16:05   #12
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Seems like the strength stat is what's causing the problem. In the past I usually look for a minimum of a STR of 15-16 with a CON of 13 or better and try to get a high DEX of about the 14 as well.... but it seems like that's insufficient now?
When you start your character did you choose 'point-based' or 'standard roller'?
I concur with the others that if you upload your character info to the 'ladder' part of the website it will make helping you much easier. Uploading to the ladder means we can see everything about your character, such as its starting stats.

Here is an example of a character sheet that has been uploaded to the ladder. It's called a 'character dump': http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=22380

You can see all the character's stats on that character sheet I linked to. If you need more help uploading your character to the ladder just let us know.

Or just click this link to upload your character ("submit your dump"):http://angband.oook.cz/ladder.php
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Old April 1, 2019, 22:07   #13
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From what I can tell, it seems harder because it *is* harder. Blood falcons and other monster buffs will make the beginning levels tougher.
Are we talking about the same version of the game? I'm running Angband 4.1.3 vanilla here. I've not seen any blood falcons yet even on my now lvl 22 & 23 characters. But yeah, centipedes and such should not be that big of a deal with decent STR DEX and CON stats.... but I found that they were for my first couple tries (But maybe that was just bad luck on damage rolls? -shrug-). But now I got a Half-Troll Priest with 18+ STR stat, I'm doing just fine (also persistent levels is off).
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Old April 1, 2019, 22:11   #14
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When you start your character did you choose 'point-based' or 'standard roller'?
I concur with the others that if you upload your character info to the 'ladder' part of the website it will make helping you much easier. Uploading to the ladder means we can see everything about your character, such as its starting stats.

Here is an example of a character sheet that has been uploaded to the ladder. It's called a 'character dump': http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=22380

You can see all the character's stats on that character sheet I linked to. If you need more help uploading your character to the ladder just let us know.

Or just click this link to upload your character ("submit your dump"):http://angband.oook.cz/ladder.php
Point based since that's recommended, though I did try a couple on a roller, but I didn't pay attention to them since I decided to trash them anyway.


This ladder stuff is still confusing me. Like why not just make a zip file, or just screenshot my stats? That seems a lot easier and more efficient than whatever dumpfile thing you're asking.

Anyway, this is not a bug report anyway, just an observation on personal gameplay, which is likely due to my own errors, rather than the game's.
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Old April 1, 2019, 22:49   #15
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Because it is far easier to read it as a text file online. I would never bother to download a zip file of someone's character just to read it. And cut-and paste characters are hard to read. Try the ladder before you make (ignorant) comments about it. (Ignorant, because you haven't tried it!)
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Old April 1, 2019, 23:49   #16
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This ladder stuff is still confusing me. Like why not just make a zip file, or just screenshot my stats? That seems a lot easier and more efficient than whatever dumpfile thing you're asking.
It's just a culture thing. Since Angband let you save a textfile showing your character information, people have been sharing them and that's just the culture that's built up around the game, going back to the days when the Angba community was primarily on newsgroups. It's not inherently worse or better than any other way of sharing info, it's just "the way it's done" (and more importantly I guess, the main way the game lets it be done).
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Note that the it would take at least 5 different screenshots to cover the contents of a character dump file: stats, resistance, inventory, equipment, home inventory, history. Possibly more if you play randarts (would also need the Inspect screen of each randart).
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I don't know, it's probably just me, but it seems like the latest version of Angband is a lot harder than I remember it being in the past. Like even with wizard mode on (yes, I'm lame), I'm dying or coming close to death far too frequently in the early game (pre-level 5).

If you die before 5 then jump straight to 6 and you'll be fine .


Seriously though, getting early survival gear is a bit harder than it used to be. Just buy scrolls of phase door and be ready to run away at any point and you should survive. Note that those pesky low-level priests and paladins and cast curse so big bunch of those can kill you from distance. So avoid being in LoS of several of them at the same time. Corners are your friend.
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Because it is far easier to read it as a text file online. I would never bother to download a zip file of someone's character just to read it. And cut-and paste characters are hard to read. Try the ladder before you make (ignorant) comments about it. (Ignorant, because you haven't tried it!)
Ignorance would suggest sufficient knowledge and then ignoring such knowledge. Since I obviously and clearly did not have such knowledge, one can not call me ignorant... naive maybe, under-educated... but not ignorant. You were fine with your comment until you decided to come at me with an ad hominem.

Please remove yourself from the conversation, as your attitude is not welcome with me. Thank you.
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If you die before 5 then jump straight to 6 and you'll be fine .


Seriously though, getting early survival gear is a bit harder than it used to be. Just buy scrolls of phase door and be ready to run away at any point and you should survive. Note that those pesky low-level priests and paladins and cast curse so big bunch of those can kill you from distance. So avoid being in LoS of several of them at the same time. Corners are your friend.
Yeah, my characters were getting killed by stuff like molds/jellies, centipedes and I think jackals early on. But I have selling on, so I don't start with much money. And with the shops being pretty scarce as far as starting equips, it's hard to get just basic armor and a decent weapon (if a dagger or mace isn't going to cut it for whatever character I'm playing). Sometimes I can't even buy a sling or short bow because I focus on body armor.

Also I'm noticing some really odd behavior with jackals and cave spiders. They no longer chase you beyond the edge of the room they are in. Is that normal? I don't remember them them being so contained to their set locations before.
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