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Old February 3, 2011, 18:42   #1
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3.2.0, first win for me ever

Finally, after all these years, I managed to make a character that didn't die to a stupid mistake or inebriation.

Admittably I took my sweet time scumming for things, but I've had my share of "it breathes _____, you die" things in the past so I wanted to make sure things were safe and snug this time. And it seemed to work.


Next challenge is probably trying to do the same thing while playing a "bit" more aggressively.
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Old February 3, 2011, 19:46   #2
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You overvalued speed. Past +27 (or +28, I forget), speed starts giving you decreasing returns. I think going from +40 to +50 only increases your actions-per-game-tick by something like 5%, which is not really all that worthwhile. You had +33 speed when hasted without using those rings; you should have used some of those randart rings to patch up your stats and resist holes. Maragor and Turos would have given you two more immunities, ESP, and nexus and disenchantment resistance, for example, along with +5 to STR/CON and +7 to WIS.

But hey, you won, and that's what counts. Congrats!

(Now can we please remove the Permanence DSM ego?)
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Old February 3, 2011, 19:48   #3
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(Now can we please remove the Permanence DSM ego?)
Heh, just suggested the same thing in another thread.

DSM of Speed should go as well.

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Old February 4, 2011, 02:49   #4
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Heh, just suggested the same thing in another thread.

DSM of Speed should go as well.

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Beat me in saying that. Permanence and speed feel overpowered. Resistance, dwarven and elvenkind are enough (and even elvenkind is stretching it a bit).

GreenDSM of Resistance is pretty much same as MHDSM, same with elvenkind already beats most artifacts, make that Chaos or BalanceDSM and you have armor which is hard to beat, which means those two types might already be overpowered as well.

Should we invent entirely new ego types for dragon armors? Basic4 single-resist DSMs of immunity? DSM of flight (small speed bonus, feather fall, maybe small DEX-bonus)?
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Old February 4, 2011, 04:54   #5
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IMO the egos for TV_DRAG_ARMOR should be a subset of the egos for TV_HARD_ARMOR. I'm ambivalent about "of resistance", which seem like too much on balance DSM.
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Old February 4, 2011, 05:12   #6
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Should we invent entirely new ego types for dragon armors? Basic4 single-resist DSMs of immunity? DSM of flight (small speed bonus, feather fall, maybe small DEX-bonus)?
I like these ideas. I was planning to think up some new DSM egos for DAJ, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. Here's my first two.
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Old February 4, 2011, 07:02   #7
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Heh. I was thinking of giving DSM's base immunity already, and making some of them get simple ego's, like resistance, even elvenkind maybe, then perhaps give Law and Chaos access only to resistance and rarely. Balance would get single resist or something, maybe still resistance. Power DSM? Already has anything mentioned except for stealth, so no ego's. MHDSM would probably get elvenkind without stealth. Infact the elvenkind would never get stealth on DSM, so maybe rename to "of extra resistance"?
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Old February 4, 2011, 15:32   #8
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Power DSM got nerfed awhile back; it's missing blindness/nexus/nether. Bladeturner still gets everything though.
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Old February 4, 2011, 19:21   #9
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Power DSM got nerfed awhile back; it's missing blindness/nexus/nether. Bladeturner still gets everything though.
Which is good. It was first too weak, then too strong, and now I think it is perfect. It basically is just combination of all DSM:s, and since there are none with blindness, nexus or nether resists that is what you get.
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Old February 4, 2011, 20:31   #10
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So now that bronze dragons are out, does PDSM still have protection from confusion? I confess I haven't tried 3.2 at all yet. Too busy with other stuff...
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