Current master post-4.1.3

[Nick]

I'd like to leave High Elves without an XP modifier for now - they were actually one of the reasons why I wanted it gone. Also, surely any argument that applies to them applies as well to Dunedain.

[fph]

Bug report: while polymorphed, it's impossible to ignore objects. I think it's only a "convenience" UI option, and it should be excluded from the rule that polymorphed players cannot use objects.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by Nick

[*]The experiment of having object power calculations in a data file is over; it was intended to give players the opportunity to tweak these calculations, but the actual effect was that when I wanted to tweak them I couldn't easily even understand it. So the power code is now all back in obj-power.c. Also, the process of making the data file required some changes to power calculations, the effect of which roughly seems to have been to undervalue many weapons. So there is a gameplay result of this change, which I hope will be to nerf randart weapons a bit as Grotug and others have been calling for. I'm interested to hear how this plays out before making any other randart changes.

Something seems to have gone awry with treasure level feeling calculations, and I suspect it was somewhere in this change. I've had a @ scumming levels on DL97 and DL98 and have come across a rather large number of "Superb" "9" treasure feelings; so far, only one of those appeared to be legitimate.

[khearn]

Ingwe,

Is it possible that you are ignoring things that are contributing to the level treasure feeling?

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by khearn

Ingwe,

Is it possible that you are ignoring things that are contributing to the level treasure feeling?

No, I used shift-k to unignore the levels when trying to figure out what I was missing. Something has definitely gone wrong with the treasure feeling.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

Something seems to have gone awry with treasure level feeling calculations, and I suspect it was somewhere in this change. I've had a @ scumming levels on DL97 and DL98 and have come across a rather large number of "Superb" "9" treasure feelings; so far, only one of those appeared to be legitimate.

OK, thanks, will follow that up.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by Nick

OK, thanks, will follow that up.

Another one of those "9" levels; I haven't yet played through the level to see if the "9" was justified, but this is a different bug. Findirz is a Dunadan Rogue and has just cast Object Detection (twice in a row in fact, just to be sure I wasn't crazy). There are three red (*) unidentified, but clearly within range of the spell, while other items in that range were identified. Here is the savefile: Findirz.zip

EDIT: I also made a quick look around the level at the items and again the "9" seems unjustified. Oh, this is all on the latest Apr 29, 84ffecf82, nightly.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

Another one of those "9" levels; I haven't yet played through the level to see if the "9" was justified, but this is a different bug. Findirz is a Dunadan Rogue and has just cast Object Detection (twice in a row in fact, just to be sure I wasn't crazy). There are three red (*) unidentified, but clearly within range of the spell, while other items in that range were identified. Here is the savefile: Attachment 1725

EDIT: I also made a quick look around the level at the items and again the "9" seems unjustified. Oh, this is all on the latest Apr 29, 84ffecf82, nightly.

OK, I see this and it's very odd. Most of those red stars aren't actually objects. Further investigation required.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by Nick

OK, I see this and it's very odd. Most of those red stars aren't actually objects. Further investigation required.

Couldn't remember if they were objects, or ignored objects that were just not showing up. Shouldn't be former objects that were picked up by monsters, as @ had just cast Detect Objects. If I remember right, didn't we have a similar issue with the red stars way back when you and I were seriously play-testing every aspect of the recode project?

[wobbly]

Started a kobold blackguard, default settings, angband.live & had 0 gold left after the starting kit.
Blackguard & necromancer's 1st book is still different. They are the only classes setup that way.
Ok I can see why I have no gold:

### BLACKGUARD ###
book:shadow book:town:[Dark Rituals]:4:shadow



spell:Dark Focus:8:5:5:8
### NECROMANCER ###
book:shadow book:town:[Dark Rituals]:5:shadow

book-graphics:?:P

book-properties:400:40:10 to 100



spell:Tap Unlife:7:0:50:3