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Old August 25, 2016, 17:46   #1
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angband sound in mp3 ?

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I want to include angband in fedora, and there is a killer: sounds are released in mp3. Why not using opensource format like ogg, flac or others ?

Migrating to opensource format will allow a better integration in unix-like system with strict rules (mp3 is not opensource), and will not impact windows user.

What do you think about it ?

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Old August 25, 2016, 17:55   #2
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Hi,

I want to include angband in fedora, and there is a killer: sounds are released in mp3. Why not using opensource format like ogg, flac or others ?

Migrating to opensource format will allow a better integration in unix-like system with strict rules (mp3 is not opensource), and will not impact windows user.

What do you think about it ?
You can find the sound files as WAVs at http://www.dubtrain.com/angband/

There is more background on why we are using mp3s here: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=7766 - mostly, mp3s are supported natively on OS X and Windows and no open-source alternative is.
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Old August 25, 2016, 18:49   #3
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Thanks for your reply,

dubtrain provide these files under a CC with NC clause, which really differ from the original GPLv2.

Well, I understand your point of view, but it make the thing harder for linux-like people. Maybe provide a package like dubtrain, with only the conversion of your mp3 ? I will be glade to help of course.

Thank you again for your help,

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dubtrain provide these files under a CC with NC clause, which really differ from the original GPLv2.

Well, I understand your point of view, but it make the thing harder for linux-like people. Maybe provide a package like dubtrain, with only the conversion of your mp3 ? I will be glade to help of course.
Ah, the MP3s in the Angband download are also under CC BY-NC-SA - see copying.txt. So you have the same license regardless of where you get them from.
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Old August 26, 2016, 12:34   #5
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Too bad to hear that. The NC clause is a killer for many distro !

Thank you for your help,

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NC on artistic work is bog standard, and it should be. If you are selling something derivative which uses creative work, it absolutely should be properly licensed. This is a lotmore important than making distros easier.
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NC close is prohibiting all commercial uses. I don't want to start a war about it, and it can be considered good, but this close is a kind of restrictive. This is the major problem: with a NC close, you can't do what you want with it, even if you licence it properly or quote the author. And you can't of course licence your work to a less restrictive one, like CC-BY or even any GPL compliant, if you include one with the NC close. NC is restrictive, and not free as considered by the Free Software Fundation see here: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html)

It is not only a killer for distro, but also for many opensoure men.

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