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 July 18, 2007, 05:54 #1 K.I.L.E.R Apprentice   Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 56 Dual wield in [SA] This has been bothering me for some months but never really bothered much with it, now however is a different story. The manual says: Dual wield doesn't increase your number of blows. You hit with one weapon until it expends its blows, then continue with your offhand weapon. So in total I assume by proposition one that if I have two blows, then my first weapon will hit, if it misses will then go to my offhand weapon. Assuming the primary weapon hits once, so now I have only one blow left, I assume that it is carried out by the primary weapon. Proposition two states that my attack will continue on with my offhand weapon as well. Contradiction! Wielding two weapons in both hands decreases your weapon skill. In what way? to-hit, to-damage or both?
July 18, 2007, 12:24   #2
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 Originally Posted by K.I.L.E.R This has been bothering me for some months but never really bothered much with it, now however is a different story. The manual says: Dual wield doesn't increase your number of blows. You hit with one weapon until it expends its blows, then continue with your offhand weapon. So in total I assume by proposition one that if I have two blows, then my first weapon will hit, if it misses will then go to my offhand weapon. Assuming the primary weapon hits once, so now I have only one blow left, I assume that it is carried out by the primary weapon. Proposition two states that my attack will continue on with my offhand weapon as well. Contradiction!
I think it just means that if you miss with your primary weapon, you get another chance for that same attack to hit with your secondary weapon. So if you have 5 attacks, you could hit five times with your primary weapon. Any of those 5 attacks which miss will give a chance to hit with the secondary weapon, so you will have a higher average number of hits and a higher damage output (compared with wielding one weapon and a shield).
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 Wielding two weapons in both hands decreases your weapon skill. In what way? to-hit, to-damage or both?
Good question. I think it's just to-hit, but I'm not certain.

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 July 18, 2007, 20:51 #3 camlost Sangband 1.x Maintainer     Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 522 Anytime you miss with a primary attack, the second one gets a chance. If you have a different number of blows, say 2 and 4, then you get those last two attacks with just your second weapon. It just penalizes your to-hit, to bring it more in-line with single wielding, or at least that's what I assume.
 July 19, 2007, 04:24 #4 K.I.L.E.R Apprentice   Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 56 Thanks. What is prefered, dual wield or S + Sld?
July 19, 2007, 09:22   #5
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 Originally Posted by K.I.L.E.R Thanks. What is prefered, dual wield or S + Sld?
I know of very few dual-wielding chars. I think the skill hit is too much, and there are too many useful shields. I guess it could work well for an OoI swordsman weaponsmith - you could forge items for your off-hand which were better than found shields, and your high skill would make the skill penalty less trouble.

Hmm. Maybe I just found my next challenge char...

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