Map scroll distance

t4nk · October 10, 2016, 02:19

If you're playing without "center_player" option, viewport (the map area) scrolls when @ is within 3 grids from the edge of it.
Isn't it way too small? I find that I have to constantly press '@' (center map command) when playing.
I think 1/4th of the viewport would be a better default. For example, with 80x24 term, map would scroll horizontally when @ is within 20 steps from the edge, and 6 vertically. If some kind of symmetry is desired, the minimum of these numbers could be taken (6, in this case).
Sangband also has this (scroll distance) as an option, which is an ok idea. There are already too many damned options, though... Besides, some kind of default is still necessary. I think 3 tiles is a pretty bad default.
Opinions?

Estie · October 10, 2016, 06:13

Why would you play without the "center constantly" option ?

Pete Mack · October 10, 2016, 06:43

Because it isn't quick and makes you feel sick.

AnonymousHero · October 10, 2016, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

Because it isn't quick and makes you feel sick.

Huh, TIL. Personally, I can't play without it. I find it hugely disorientating when the whole screen moves in one big 'jump'.

(That and the whole 'death from out of LoS thing'.)

Bogatyr · October 10, 2016, 13:42

I never use centering, it traditionally has been too slow. I just use the "W" (roguelike) window scrolling command now without even thinking about it.

Derakon · October 10, 2016, 15:17

I just play in a gigantic window so I can see practically the entire dungeon at once, and thus hardly ever have to scroll.

Nick · October 10, 2016, 21:21

FAangband also has adjustable scrolling distance; I think it would go fine in the second group of options (set hitpoint warning, etc).

MattB · October 10, 2016, 23:11

I guess it's what you're used to. I can't stand using auto-centre, and don't have a problem playing without it.

Mudd · October 14, 2016, 05:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derakon

I just play in a gigantic window so I can see practically the entire dungeon at once, and thus hardly ever have to scroll.

What's the res on your screen?

Lots of scrolling with 1900x1200....gotta upgrade someday!

Derakon · October 14, 2016, 06:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudd

What's the res on your screen?

Lots of scrolling with 1900x1200....gotta upgrade someday!

1900x1200, same as you. Are you using tiles or a very large font size? I also put some of the secondary terminals on a second display. I can view almost the entire dungeon at once, needing to scroll slightly in each direction to encompass everything. It's no big deal to use the 'L'ook command for that if I'm feeling nervous.

October 10, 2016, 02:19	#1
t4nk Swordsman Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 330	Map scroll distance If you're playing without "center_player" option, viewport (the map area) scrolls when @ is within 3 grids from the edge of it. Isn't it way too small? I find that I have to constantly press '@' (center map command) when playing. I think 1/4th of the viewport would be a better default. For example, with 80x24 term, map would scroll horizontally when @ is within 20 steps from the edge, and 6 vertically. If some kind of symmetry is desired, the minimum of these numbers could be taken (6, in this case). Sangband also has this (scroll distance) as an option, which is an ok idea. There are already too many damned options, though... Besides, some kind of default is still necessary. I think 3 tiles is a pretty bad default. Opinions?

October 10, 2016, 21:21	#7
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 57 Posts: 9,431 Donated: $60	FAangband also has adjustable scrolling distance; I think it would go fine in the second group of options (set hitpoint warning, etc). __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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October 10, 2016, 06:13	#2
Estie Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,162	Why would you play without the "center constantly" option ?

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Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,706 Donated: $40	Because it isn't quick and makes you feel sick.

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October 10, 2016, 15:17	#6
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,022	I just play in a gigantic window so I can see practically the entire dungeon at once, and thus hardly ever have to scroll.

October 10, 2016, 23:11	#8
MattB Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,214	I guess it's what you're used to. I can't stand using auto-centre, and don't have a problem playing without it.

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