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Old September 13, 2022, 17:30   #1
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No tel levels

Not sure I'm such a big fan.

Just got killed in one after I dropped down into a No-tel level in the middle of a pack of gravity hounds.

Then there are cases where there's a ridiculously hard pit of monsters between where you are and where the stairs are.
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Old September 14, 2022, 06:36   #2
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I encountered this level recently and didn't see any reason for me to participate on it so I Word of Recalled.
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Old September 14, 2022, 14:32   #3
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Yeah - I've been playing in masochist mode
So straight ironman rules, no going up at all with a fragile hobbit nec.
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Old September 19, 2022, 19:22   #4
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I just came here to report this as a bug. So there are no tel levels on purpose now? I was frantically checking all my gear to make sure I wasn't wearing something cursed.

Is there some sort of in-game notification that I missed? Because it sucks to discover that you're on a no tel level when you're trying to teleport out of a bad situation.
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Old September 21, 2022, 14:14   #5
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I just came here to report this as a bug. So there are no tel levels on purpose now? I was frantically checking all my gear to make sure I wasn't wearing something cursed.

Is there some sort of in-game notification that I missed?
Gauntlet levels (cavern on one side with the up stairs, cavern on the other side with down stairs, and joined by a labyrinth in the middle) have the portions with the up stairs and labyrinth marked so player teleportation is forbidden. There's no notification in game for those levels, but I believe that has been suggested as a way to make them less of a surprise.
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Old September 24, 2022, 16:47   #6
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Gauntlet levels (cavern on one side with the up stairs, cavern on the other side with down stairs, and joined by a labyrinth in the middle) have the portions with the up stairs and labyrinth marked so player teleportation is forbidden. There's no notification in game for those levels, but I believe that has been suggested as a way to make them less of a surprise.
That makes sense — I've come across one of those levels since my first post and had the same experience.

I can see where a level like that would be a significant hindrance to playing an ironman game. Maybe "include gauntlet levels y/n" could be a user setup option? Or dump them entirely.
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Old September 25, 2022, 08:49   #7
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I only do ironman except comps and don't mind the added difficulty from this. I was surprised the first time though and a warning of sorts would be ok but not required.
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Old September 25, 2022, 09:24   #8
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I don't have a strong opinion on this, I'll just give 2 comments:

It's very unclear why teleport is failing, even after the fail message.
It's hard to spot the difference between gauntlet levels and caverns.
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Old October 2, 2022, 01:50   #9
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If you don't like gauntlet levels, you can just set the "alloc" value for them in dungeon_profile.txt to 0, then they will never appear.
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