Competition 68

Nick · April 21, 2009, 13:02

Competition 68 is now available from here. It is a Steamband British Naturalist - the first full caster we've had for a while (if I understand naturalists correctly).

Competition 67 still has a couple of days to run.

Donald Jonker · April 21, 2009, 13:29

Something just basically wrong about a naturalist beginning with a fur cloak, isn't there?

PaulBlay · April 21, 2009, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Donald Jonker

Something just basically wrong about a naturalist beginning with a fur cloak, isn't there?

Sure you're not thinking of naturist?

buzzkill · April 22, 2009, 01:15

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Originally Posted by Donald Jonker

Something just basically wrong about a naturalist beginning with a fur cloak, isn't there?

That's probably the least of his problems.

Any-hoo, I downloaded Steamband (x86 Windows compile of Steamband 0.4.1final) and created a new character. I can distribute the skill points, but the game crashes as soon as I try to move, or take the stairs. Win XP, fully up to date, blah blah blah. Is it just me?

No graphics, yet again, if anyone cares.

Donald Jonker · April 22, 2009, 02:31

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Originally Posted by PaulBlay

Sure you're not thinking of naturist?

Naturalist is a pretty slippery signifier, but yeah, I'm probably thinking somewhat anachronistically...

@Buzzkill - I have the same setup but no crashes. Bummer. Have you tried the boring/probably useless reboot, restart, fresh zip & savefile?

As far as graphics go, for a burgeoning artist such as yourself, I wouldn't see this so much as an obstacle as an opportunity.

For Steamband, hell, even I'm tempted to cook up some tiles.

Nick · April 22, 2009, 03:53

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Originally Posted by buzzkill

I can distribute the skill points, but the game crashes as soon as I try to move, or take the stairs. Win XP, fully up to date, blah blah blah. Is it just me?

Odd. There is a known crash bug associated with town monsters moving, but this doesn't sound like it.

rdanhenry · April 22, 2009, 21:25

The Naturalist is not really a caster in the traditional sense. He can learn spells and cast them out of books, but so can any Steamband character. He develops class powers and may not want to spend points to develop magic that would overlap with his nature-oriented powers. He is a power-oriented class, although his powers are while the Naturalist's powers are not melee-centric like a Dashing Hussar's, he is still probably best off developing melee to back up his powers. These powers do include healing, detections, and damage-dealing (but a *band character usually gets these one way or another - I wouldn't call a devices specialist a "caster").

The Gentleman is the spell-caster of the Steamband classes, the only one with access to the full trees of spell-casting skills.

Nick · April 22, 2009, 23:27

OK - I've played gentlemen a bit, but never naturalists. In any case, it looks like a change of pace from the stream of rogues, assassins and warriors the competition has had recently.

buzzkill · April 23, 2009, 15:18

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Originally Posted by buzzkill

... Steamband (x86 Windows compile of Steamband 0.4.1final) and created a new character. I can distribute the skill points, but the game crashes as soon as I try to move, or take the stairs. Win XP, fully up to date.

After another few minutes of testing, I've come to the conclusion that this crash only occurs if the window I'm playing in is maximized. I can play windowed (even with a full-screen window) without crashing. Upon crash, there are three consecutive 'error message' pop-ups that I have to close before I get back to the desktop.

buzzkill · May 2, 2009, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Donald Jonker

As far as graphics go, for a burgeoning artist such as yourself, I wouldn't see this so much as an obstacle as an opportunity.

For Steamband, hell, even I'm tempted to cook up some tiles.

I missed this nugget the first time through. Am I sensing a collaboration, because I might be interested. It would be one heck of a job though, considering the eccentricity of the monster catalog.

However, It's not just a lack of tiles. I don't think that there is any 'graphic support' within the game itself. Weather this is just a matter re-compiling, of some serious coding is beyond me.

April 21, 2009, 13:02	#1
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 58 Posts: 9,532 Donated: $60	Competition 68 Competition 68 is now available from here. It is a Steamband British Naturalist - the first full caster we've had for a while (if I understand naturalists correctly). Competition 67 still has a couple of days to run. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

April 21, 2009, 13:29	#2
Donald Jonker Knight Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 593	Something just basically wrong about a naturalist beginning with a fur cloak, isn't there? __________________ Bands, / Those funny little plans / That never work quite right. -Mercury Rev

April 22, 2009, 23:27	#8
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 58 Posts: 9,532 Donated: $60	OK - I've played gentlemen a bit, but never naturalists. In any case, it looks like a change of pace from the stream of rogues, assassins and warriors the competition has had recently. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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rdanhenry Scout Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sol III Posts: 29	The Naturalist is not really a caster in the traditional sense. He can learn spells and cast them out of books, but so can any Steamband character. He develops class powers and may not want to spend points to develop magic that would overlap with his nature-oriented powers. He is a power-oriented class, although his powers are while the Naturalist's powers are not melee-centric like a Dashing Hussar's, he is still probably best off developing melee to back up his powers. These powers do include healing, detections, and damage-dealing (but a *band character usually gets these one way or another - I wouldn't call a devices specialist a "caster"). The Gentleman is the spell-caster of the Steamband classes, the only one with access to the full trees of spell-casting skills.

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