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Old November 14, 2015, 18:00   #1
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Old November 14, 2015, 18:17   #2
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I wouldnt strike any deals with that one, he is shifty.
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Old November 14, 2015, 22:02   #3
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Old November 19, 2015, 04:49   #4
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On the same topic:

Shouldn't Wormtongue always drop boots of Wormtongue at death? I think so..

Also, Shelob spider must die immediately if you throw Phial of Galadriel at her. (According to Tolkien)
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Old November 19, 2015, 07:47   #5
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Also, Shelob spider must die immediately if you throw Phial of Galadriel at her. (According to Tolkien)
She didn't die at encounter with Sam and Frodo. What did make most damage was Sting when she tried to crush Sam which happened to have Sting pointing at her. She basically threw herself at the sword. Light from Phial just hurt her.
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Old November 19, 2015, 14:46   #6
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She didn't die at encounter with Sam and Frodo. What did make most damage was Sting when she tried to crush Sam which happened to have Sting pointing at her. She basically threw herself at the sword. Light from Phial just hurt her.
She is hurt by bright light *nodnod* It would be pretty cool if getting hit by Sting caused her to be afraid.
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Old November 19, 2015, 14:52   #7
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She is hurt by bright light *nodnod* It would be pretty cool if getting hit by Sting caused her to be afraid.

That's quite Nethacky - Jabberwocks are killed by one blow with Vorpal blade for example. I quite like that it dares to be different.
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That's quite Nethacky - Jabberwocks are killed by one blow with Vorpal blade for example. I quite like that it dares to be different.
I just thought it'd be fun flavor- it doesn't seem practical to carry around a cartload of artifacts just for a tiny bonus against specific uniques.
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Oh indeed - I never used Vorpal blade in Nethack for its effect on Jabberwocks (which are tough in netback but easily handled anyway when you get to the depth where they live). Personally I found that flavour unnecessary in Nethack.
I used Vorpal blade for two reasons - (a) artifacts are *much* rarer in Nethack so when you get one, you use it typically and (b) it's a damn good weapon generally. Possibly top 3 in Nethack (Excalibur and Grayswandir the other 2 -for me).

Sting doesn't glow when orc are around in Angband, yet it does in Nethack
That *is* kind of the wrong way around.
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She is hurt by bright light *nodnod* It would be pretty cool if getting hit by Sting caused her to be afraid.
Phial had capability to hurt her though. It was bright, really really bright at the hands of Sam at that scene. IIRC it was described to be like lightning that doesn't go away or something like that.

IMO Phial should be the top light source of the game. It was made by Galadriel who was relative to Feanor who made the Silmarils and it was made to be a light source. Other two are just jewels. Galadriel was one of the very first noldor, very skilled and very powerful being, learned things directly from Aule.
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