Comp 219

Gwarl · November 27, 2018, 16:43

No savefile again.

Human druid from feature branch. All birth options permitted.

Winner in least turns.

bron · November 28, 2018, 04:43

I wonder if the comp 216 winners will break 10K turns this time around.

I tried this, but I just find it unplayable with "run" currently broken. I'll wait until Nick has time to fix that.

Nick · November 28, 2018, 06:47

I would suggest using the first of the older builds on the nightlies page (Windows, macOS, source), which should not have the run bug.

PowerWyrm · November 28, 2018, 08:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by bron

I wonder if the comp 216 winners will break 10K turns this time around.

Probably not. We used broken mechanisms (Blackguard, Paladin, Rogue) to achieve those stupid turncounts, I don't think it will be possible with a druid, but we'll see...

wobbly · November 28, 2018, 10:01

As Nick's said use an older version to avoid the run bug. I'm pretty sure all recent game play changes were necromancy or shield bash e.g. nothing that effects the druid.

Nick · November 28, 2018, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobbly

As Nick's said use an older version to avoid the run bug. I'm pretty sure all recent game play changes were necromancy or shield bash e.g. nothing that effects the druid.

There was a fairly recent change which will affect XP for first casting of spells, but the builds I quoted upthread have that change (and in fact are only missing a couple of minor bug "fixes").

Voovus · November 28, 2018, 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwarl

No savefile again.

Gwarl, since you have specified the character, the lack of a savefile looks like a bug on the competition page. As Ingwe mentioned in #216:

"Maybe make a notation on the Competition description that there is no starting save file even though the page has a download starting save file link."

Gwarl · November 29, 2018, 14:05

Okay I changed the version on .live to what I deduce was the last build before the running bug was introduced. (Notably, it seems to not have been Nick's fault).

Ingwe Ingweron · November 29, 2018, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwarl

Okay I changed the version on .live to what I deduce was the last build before the running bug was introduced. (Notably, it seems to not have been Nick's fault).

Which is what nightly version, for those downloading and playing off-line? The "variant" listed on the comp page remains the broken one. (Though I plan to play on-line and wouldn't mind a comp with on-line required).

Nick · November 29, 2018, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

Which is what nightly version, for those downloading and playing off-line? The "variant" listed on the comp page remains the broken one. (Though I plan to play on-line and wouldn't mind a comp with on-line required).

4.1.3-212-g09fdd8c25 is the pre-bug version, which is the one I linked in post 3 of this thread.

The running bug is confusing because

it's a coding error found by someone else
it's clearly an error
but fixing the error creates the running bug.

Further complicated by the fact that I'm spending all my (regrettably little) Angband time on feature/monster.

November 27, 2018, 16:43	#1
Gwarl Knight Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 949	Comp 219 No savefile again. Human druid from feature branch. All birth options permitted. Winner in least turns.

November 28, 2018, 06:47	#3
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 57 Posts: 9,481 Donated: $60	I would suggest using the first of the older builds on the nightlies page (Windows, macOS, source), which should not have the run bug. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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November 28, 2018, 04:43	#2
bron Knight Join Date: May 2008 Location: Saratoga, California (in the midst of Silicon Valley) Posts: 515	I wonder if the comp 216 winners will break 10K turns this time around. I tried this, but I just find it unplayable with "run" currently broken. I'll wait until Nick has time to fix that.

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wobbly Prophet Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,614	As Nick's said use an older version to avoid the run bug. I'm pretty sure all recent game play changes were necromancy or shield bash e.g. nothing that effects the druid.

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Gwarl Knight Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 949	Okay I changed the version on .live to what I deduce was the last build before the running bug was introduced. (Notably, it seems to not have been Nick's fault).

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