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Old October 13, 2014, 13:19   #1
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Bug or feature: it seems str over 18/100 is not affecting carrying

Hi,

I couldn't find this information elsewhere, so here goes:

It seems that once you have str over 18/100 you do not gain anymore carrying capacity with a higher str. I think this is strange. Enhanced str through artifact should affect carrying as well, and not only how hard you can hit with a weapon. I am on Angband 3.5.0. Any thoughts on this?

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Old October 13, 2014, 13:31   #2
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Hi,

I couldn't find this information elsewhere, so here goes:

It seems that once you have str over 18/100 you do not gain anymore carrying capacity with a higher str.
Limit is actually 18/50.

Code:
/*
 * Stat Table (STR) -- weight limit in deca-pounds
 */
const byte adj_str_wgt[STAT_RANGE] =
{
    5    /* 3 */,
    6    /* 4 */,
    7    /* 5 */,
    8    /* 6 */,
    9    /* 7 */,
    10    /* 8 */,
    11    /* 9 */,
    12    /* 10 */,
    13    /* 11 */,
    14    /* 12 */,
    15    /* 13 */,
    16    /* 14 */,
    17    /* 15 */,
    18    /* 16 */,
    19    /* 17 */,
    20    /* 18/00-18/09 */,
    22    /* 18/10-18/19 */,
    24    /* 18/20-18/29 */,
    26    /* 18/30-18/39 */,
    28    /* 18/40-18/49 */,
    30    /* 18/50-18/59 */,
    30    /* 18/60-18/69 */,
    30    /* 18/70-18/79 */,
    30    /* 18/80-18/89 */,
    30    /* 18/90-18/99 */,
    30    /* 18/100-18/109 */,
    30    /* 18/110-18/119 */,
    30    /* 18/120-18/129 */,
    30    /* 18/130-18/139 */,
    30    /* 18/140-18/149 */,
    30    /* 18/150-18/159 */,
    30    /* 18/160-18/169 */,
    30    /* 18/170-18/179 */,
    30    /* 18/180-18/189 */,
    30    /* 18/190-18/199 */,
    30    /* 18/200-18/209 */,
    30    /* 18/210-18/219 */,
    30    /* 18/220+ */
};
Maybe more stuff is more a case of how difficult is to carry half the town around than just weight, and game just merges the two.
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Old October 13, 2014, 14:48   #3
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Ok, thanks for the info!

Yeah, I just guessed and 18/100 seemed logical

I think that the amount of inventory slots takes care of not carrying "half the town" and therefor it is not a good "cut-off". With more strength you should be able to carry heavier items without slowing down.
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Old October 13, 2014, 16:05   #4
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My guess is that at 18/50 it's not the weight of the things you're carrying that slows you down, it's their bulk. Trying to maneuver while lugging around six sets of plate mail would be difficult even if they were made of plastic.
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Old October 13, 2014, 20:20   #5
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Trying to maneuver while lugging around six sets of plate mail would be difficult even if they were made of plastic.
I guess you have a pretty valid point there
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Old October 14, 2014, 03:37   #6
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My guess is that at 18/50 it's not the weight of the things you're carrying that slows you down, it's their bulk. Trying to maneuver while lugging around six sets of plate mail would be difficult even if they were made of plastic.
Reminds me of the bet I made in military once. I was carrying a summer disguise-net around a dense forest and cursing because it tend to get stuck in every single branch it hit. Other guys said something in the lines of "what are you complaining about, that thing is light, try carrying this heavy anti-tank missile tube"...at which point I made a bet that I could carry that missile tube faster at the top of the hill than guy carrying it at the moment could carry that disguise net. I won the bet.

Carrying that net was like carrying a velcro net in the velcro-forest. Unbelievably annoying thing to lug around.
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Old October 14, 2014, 13:16   #7
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anti-tank missile tube
Let me guess, PSTOHJ 83 M?
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Old October 14, 2014, 14:42   #8
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Let me guess, PSTOHJ 83 M?
Can't remember the type, but that's too modern. The one we had had a crazy bug that sometimes missile makes 180 degree turn and starts to track you (wire-guided snail-pace joke of a missile). Close to that though. About same size and weight.

Good to see that those idiotic things have been discarted. Some progress.
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