Decisions, Decisions

[Estie]

Originally Posted by Derakon

+damage on anything that isn't a launcher or ammo doesn't improve ranged damage.

I haven't looked at the speed charts lately, but I think the difference between +30 and +40 speed is something like a 5-6% improvement in the rate at which you get turns.

Would it be a good idea to display "the rate at which you get turns" in the character screen ?
For example: Speed: +10 (198%)

I believe you have made a similar suggestion before which I really liked.

[Derakon]

Originally Posted by Estie

Would it be a good idea to display "the rate at which you get turns" in the character screen ?
For example: Speed: +10 (198%)

I believe you have made a similar suggestion before which I really liked.

If so, I don't remember making it, but this sounds like a fine idea to me.

[tprice]

Updated my Ladder dump again. Not much has changed since i made those gearing choices in my last post. Its working out well for me though. Up to CL49, over 1K hp,, almost all resists, and 2 immunities. I'm machine gunning arrows to kill off Uniques one by one.

IIRC i should be safe against any ONE attack but things like the Terrasque that rapidly fire off big ones are still scary.

Any advice for things i should look for/do before going down to DL99? This end game stuff is all new to me even though I've played off and on since Frog Knows.

[Egavactip]

The big thing with something like the Tarrasque is to make sure you have tons of healing and speed. I don't like him to show up on 99 or 100, so when I go gunning for him, I make sure I am well stocked.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by Egavactip

The big thing with something like the Tarrasque is to make sure you have tons of healing and speed. I don't like him to show up on 99 or 100, so when I go gunning for him, I make sure I am well stocked.

I usually don't bother with the Tarrasque unless @ has both Fire and Cold immunity and has resists for all its other attacks. If the Tarrasque shows up in the end game fights, just TO it away.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by tprice

... I'm machine gunning arrows to kill off Uniques one by one....Any advice for things i should look for/do before going down to DL99? This end game stuff is all new to me even though I've played off and on since Frog Knows.

In my opinion, stop worrying about killing off every unique. When you have enough to take on the Big Bosses, which it looks like you pretty much do, dive down there and get it done. Frittering around with every unique increases the chances of a mistake. When dangerous uniques show up in the final fights, TO them away or TO Morgoth and then destruct them off the level. Rinse and repeat. Have you been collecting scrolls of Destruction? If not, do that on your way down to DL99.

[Egavactip]

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

I usually don't bother with the Tarrasque unless @ has both Fire and Cold immunity and has resists for all its other attacks. If the Tarrasque shows up in the end game fights, just TO it away.

The problem with that, as I have discovered, is that TO it away requires you to have a clear line of sight to it (otherwise you TO something else away) while he doesn't really care what his breath attack hits on its way to you. Personally, I prefer getting rid of all the most pesky uniques before facing Sauron and/or Morgoth. Occasionally, I am not able to do that, as the little suckers just don't show up before I am ready to deal with 99/100, but if they cooperate, I try.

[Egavactip]

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

In my opinion, stop worrying about killing off every unique. When you have enough to take on the Big Bosses, which it looks like you pretty much do, dive down there and get it done. Frittering around with every unique increases the chances of a mistake. When dangerous uniques show up in the final fights, TO them away or TO Morgoth and then destruct them off the level. Rinse and repeat. Have you been collecting scrolls of Destruction? If not, do that on your way down to DL99.

I think there is more chance of a mistake when you have to deal with Morgoth AND the nastiest uniques at the same time than when you only have to deal with a unique. Plus, you are far more likely to be able to be in control of the environment when fighting a unique than when fighting Morgoth, often able to create twisty tunnels full of runed squares you can retreat to, etc. Morgoth has a way of making that environment rather unstable and undependable. Personally, I want to maximize the amount of control I have in the final fight against Morgoth (without doing crazy things like level spamming until you get a level with impassible corridors); getting rid of key uniques before fighting Morgoth is one way to maximize control of the environment. Plus, it's fun.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by Egavactip

I think there is more chance of a mistake when you have to deal with Morgoth AND the nastiest uniques at the same time than when you only have to deal with a unique. Plus, you are far more likely to be able to be in control of the environment when fighting a unique than when fighting Morgoth, often able to create twisty tunnels full of runed squares you can retreat to, etc. Morgoth has a way of making that environment rather unstable and undependable. Personally, I want to maximize the amount of control I have in the final fight against Morgoth (without doing crazy things like level spamming until you get a level with impassible corridors); getting rid of key uniques before fighting Morgoth is one way to maximize control of the environment. Plus, it's fun.

Of all your reasoning, experience has shown me that none of it holds up EXCEPT that last one. If that's your reason, by all means kill every last one of them!

[krazyhades]

Thank you Ingwe for saying what I wanted to say but much more kindly.