Comp 234 - Page 4

malcontent · October 26, 2020, 21:22

Does one still hallucinate during Bloodlust if one has resistance to chaos?

Nick · October 26, 2020, 21:32

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Originally Posted by malcontent

Does one still hallucinate during Bloodlust if one has resistance to chaos?

One shouldn't, no.

DavidMedley · October 28, 2020, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Gwarl

Playtesting the latest Blackguard from the angband nightly builds.

I wish someone had brought this to my attention

Gwarl · October 28, 2020, 19:06

We can do another one later with more notice..

Sphara · October 28, 2020, 19:25

@David

For your knowledge, I actually learned to like Whirlwind quite a bit more.
Its still not a game-changer in any way. But goddamn its useful against those endless canine packs, druadan magi and other escort marked monsters.

Does hitting more than one thing with Whirlwind raise your MP accordingly? I noticed that my mana did not raise as fast as I killed monsters with it. Maybe kills never outweighed the cost casting it, I dunno.

DavidMedley · October 28, 2020, 19:41

You never get MP back for using the spells. Technically, you probably get a small rebate for using Unholy Bargain since it hurts you.

malcontent · November 7, 2020, 18:23

My 2 cents on the half-orc Blackguard point based defaults - horrible

+8 18/30
0 9
0 7
+12 18
0 13

My recommendation:

+6 18/20
+6 15
0 7
0 10
+8 18/20

You lose blows a fractional amount blows, dexterity isn't going to help you with blows much for quite some time in the game.

You are a somewhat competent spell caster, which at CL20 is where your extra blows are going to come from, plus you get HP recovery simply for casting things like Berserk Strength and Grim purpose.

You git more HPs, which is obviously nice.

So instead of 18 HPs and 1 SP at game start, you have 20 HPs, and 2 SPs at game start.

I feel like this combo suits the internal combustion engine that is the Blackguard - casting and fighting to rejuvenate.

wobbly · November 7, 2020, 19:29

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Originally Posted by DavidMedley

You never get MP back for using the spells. Technically, you probably get a small rebate for using Unholy Bargain since it hurts you.

You also get SPs when you are damaged from banish which was probably unintended but I like it.

DavidMedley · November 10, 2020, 04:49

I will find time for a revision pretty soon. Here's what I had in mind about six weeks ago:

http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=10282

Very happy for additional ideas and feedback from the participants in this competition!

DavidMedley · November 10, 2020, 20:24

The biggest and most basic question is: do they seem over or under powered compared to other classes?

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October 26, 2020, 21:22	#31
malcontent Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 51	Does one still hallucinate during Bloodlust if one has resistance to chaos?

October 28, 2020, 19:06	#34
Gwarl Knight Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 862	We can do another one later with more notice..

October 28, 2020, 19:25	#35
Sphara Swordsman Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Finland Posts: 417	@David For your knowledge, I actually learned to like Whirlwind quite a bit more. Its still not a game-changer in any way. But goddamn its useful against those endless canine packs, druadan magi and other escort marked monsters. Does hitting more than one thing with Whirlwind raise your MP accordingly? I noticed that my mana did not raise as fast as I killed monsters with it. Maybe kills never outweighed the cost casting it, I dunno.

October 28, 2020, 19:41	#36
DavidMedley Knight Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 941	You never get MP back for using the spells. Technically, you probably get a small rebate for using Unholy Bargain since it hurts you.

November 7, 2020, 18:23	#37
malcontent Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 51	My 2 cents on the half-orc Blackguard point based defaults - horrible +8 18/30 0 9 0 7 +12 18 0 13 My recommendation: +6 18/20 +6 15 0 7 0 10 +8 18/20 You lose blows a fractional amount blows, dexterity isn't going to help you with blows much for quite some time in the game. You are a somewhat competent spell caster, which at CL20 is where your extra blows are going to come from, plus you get HP recovery simply for casting things like Berserk Strength and Grim purpose. You git more HPs, which is obviously nice. So instead of 18 HPs and 1 SP at game start, you have 20 HPs, and 2 SPs at game start. I feel like this combo suits the internal combustion engine that is the Blackguard - casting and fighting to rejuvenate.

November 10, 2020, 04:49	#39
DavidMedley Knight Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 941	I will find time for a revision pretty soon. Here's what I had in mind about six weeks ago: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=10282 Very happy for additional ideas and feedback from the participants in this competition!

November 10, 2020, 20:24	#40
DavidMedley Knight Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 941	The biggest and most basic question is: do they seem over or under powered compared to other classes?

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