Class/magic feature branch

[Derakon]

Something that occurs to me: the new designs may be underestimating just how flexible a class needs to be to be viable when being as fragile as mages and priests are. Pretty much the entire reason why warriors and the more martial hybrid classes are viable in the early- and mid-game is because they can afford to blunder into unexpected situations and rely on their brute force to see them clear. When you don't have brute force, you need an awful lot of abilities to make up for the lack.

[Moving Pictures]

Found two scrolls (unknown) on floor. Read one. Teleport. After teleport, “You see one scroll of teleportation” which is not possible, as item was left on floor.

Also, written description for scroll of teleportation says it will transport you randomly 0 grids.

May 20 feature/magic branch build.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

Found two scrolls (unknown) on floor. Read one. Teleport. After teleport, “You see one scroll of teleportation” which is not possible, as item was left on floor.

Probably not technically a bug - the order is read scroll, recognise effect (and hence note that the scroll was teleportation, effect happens. Message ordering is a bit unintuitive sometimes.

Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

Also, written description for scroll of teleportation says it will transport you randomly 0 grids.

That's a bug.

[Moving Pictures]

Well, ether i am getting better at this game, or .... or I dunno.
Second char of class/magic is still going strong at DL30/CL29.

And I have yet to see a scroll of deep descent. Am I lucky with this one,or has DD been eliminated?

[Sky]

Unlucky. Im sure you will find one on DL94.

[Pete Mack]

You're unlucky. DD will show up when you least want it (just before clearing a GV.)

[Moving Pictures]

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

You're unlucky. DD will show up when you least want it (just before clearing a GV.)

Have moved to reading unknown scrolls in town, now. That led to an interesting cross-town battle with Smeagol, early on, but otherwise, no major issues.

Getting used to the idea of a single-book ranger, with graduated bow shots. Grooving on det life as a staple, along with sense surroundings, but feel like Satisfy Hunger came too early, too easily.

[Moving Pictures]

OK, so far, no major issues wtih the class/magic test (may 20 build) except...

... I have no idea what books my ranger is supposed to be looking for. None of the "nature" books, other than survival, are readable. Which means the consumables expended cracking open a vault on a 7-9 that had a dungeon "nature" book were mostly wasted, because @ can't read/use the book that was there.

[Moving Pictures]

OK, CL40, DL 60 Same char, although scarred and beaten due to bonehead play that had @ almost die at least four times.

I have no idea what I'm playing. It says "ranger," and I am 1.8x on a bow, but that's hardly overpowering. I have 300 blasted spell points that I can't use for anything meaningful other than mapping the dungeon. Woo. I have now found five different "nature" books, a whole bunch of priest books, some necro books and a few mage books and none of them are things the character can read.


What's the use of so many spell points if they are only used on weak, low-level spells? Give better melee, or old missile-weapon bonuses, or something..... but 305 spell points, to cast satisfy hunger and sense surroundings?

Not sure what the purpose is, but I ain't getting it.
It has Ok hit points, and decent toys (randarts), but frankly, I feel like I'm playing a weak fighter with useless spell points, and am growing bored to the point i might just walk @ into some unique and let it die so I can play something more interesting.

[Nick]

Rangers currently get two books, the second is called Forest Craft. Should be findable from DL40, so you've been unlucky.

Thanks for your comments, they will help - of the new classes, I think rangers need the most work.