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Old June 13, 2017, 21:37   #201
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Oops, looks like this "seeing through doors" issue is back/still happening:

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NXT      156                                                                    
AU      2142                                                                    
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STR:   18/30                                                                    
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WIS:       7                                  h                                 
DEX:   18/50                     #############+##                               
CON:      13                     .............<.#                               
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HP  173/ 173                               ###..#                               
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Old June 13, 2017, 22:58   #202
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Do you consider it a bug for non-fire immune monsters to be pushed onto lava when non-lava spaces are available for them? Do you consider it a bug for non-fire immune monsters to exist on lava squares without apparently taking any damage? If so, these are two bugs.
Probably not (I don't think the pushed monster gets a say in it) and yes.
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Old June 13, 2017, 23:02   #203
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You could panic save to different location. Attempt to load panic-save file if it exists. If that load fails, load the default (auto-save) file. If it succeeds, move it to the default location, else unlink it.
That sounds sensible - I will look into it, although it's now less urgent because...

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It was g8886dc4.
...that was before I removed the probably cause of the level generation crashes. This is good news, because I now know of no other crash bugs. Except...

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In the latest nightly, after killing Morgoth, for kicks @ donned the Massive Iron Crown, wielded Grond, and descended the stairs. Instant CRASH. Idiot, me, did not save the game prior to descending. I will try to reproduce it with a savefile, if I can.
...this one.
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Old June 13, 2017, 23:20   #204
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Thanks, enormously helpful. Now fixed in development.
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Old June 14, 2017, 05:56   #205
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Not a bug, but it is ironic when a "blessed" weapon is {cursed}.
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Bring back the warrior's extra blow. The way things stand now, Half-Troll warrior is a huge drag. I'm stuck using Aglarang when I have lots of nice heavy weapons at home. This just seems like bad role-playing. A half troll warrior should be able to use a heavy club.
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Probably not (I don't think the pushed monster gets a say in it) and yes.
So, pushed past now really means swapped places with? It used to be that pushed monsters didn't necessarily swap places with the pusher if other squares were available for the pushee (not lava). Similar to @ nimbly dodging falling debris. But maybe I'm misremembering. In any event, those Vampires standing on lava should be taking massive damage, they are, after all, particularly susceptible to fire. But it looks like they are standing on the lava with impunity.
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So, pushed past now really means swapped places with? It used to be that pushed monsters didn't necessarily swap places with the pusher if other squares were available for the pushee (not lava). Similar to @ nimbly dodging falling debris. But maybe I'm misremembering.
I've just done a couple of random checks - 3.5.1 and 3.0.3 - and it was still just straight swap places in both of those. More interesting pushing is certainly something to think about post-4.1, though.

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In any event, those Vampires standing on lava should be taking massive damage, they are, after all, particularly susceptible to fire. But it looks like they are standing on the lava with impunity.
Yes, I suspect this is the case, and it needs fixing.
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Bring back the warrior's extra blow. The way things stand now, Half-Troll warrior is a huge drag. I'm stuck using Aglarang when I have lots of nice heavy weapons at home. This just seems like bad role-playing. A half troll warrior should be able to use a heavy club.
As far as I can determine, the current blows system has been in place since at least 3.2.0; I don't know when or how did warriors lost their extra blow. If we were making lists of things to revert to their pre-2010 state, I don't know how high this would be on mine

This seems like quite a good thing to examine when classes are up for re-examination post 4.1, rather than something to squeeze in at the last minute.
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I feel Ancalong should squish mobs like Huan does. Huan is a big, horse-sized wolf. Ancalong BROKE A FREKIN MOUNTAIN BY FALLING ON IT.

Unrealted, i understand paladins and rogues now max out at 5 blows?

Gibe back extra blow for warriors nau plos.
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