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Old December 16, 2009, 12:41   #1
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Minor change request thread

Thought I'd start a thread for all the smaller requests you'd like to see appear in the game. Here's mine:

1) Priest prayer books appear more often (dunno how anyone wins ironman as a priest. I get to around lvl 30 and die before I ever find pb3). I imagine it is similar with magic books.

2) Flasks of oil appear in stacks (maybe reduce refuel amount a bit to make up for it), since they're so useful in combat now.

3) Staff of starlight does some significant irresistible damage (and gets a name change)

4) A few more interesting early amulets, perhaps rAcid and rElec on one amulet. Making Amulet of teleportation activate for teleport might be interesting (although probably overpowered). OK maybe this isn't a minor change.

5) Give amulet of inertia some positive property, say free action, also make its slowness 1d3 instead of 3.

6) Scrolls and staffs of light do a lot more damage to light sensitive enemies.

7) Give the boring egos such as Slay Troll some extra stuff to stop it being worthless junk. Maybe a random ability or +1 to speed.

8) Make !Heroism and !Beserk counteract fear from Rings of Escaping as long as they last.

9) Launchers are dropped/created with a small amount of ammo as well.
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Old December 16, 2009, 13:26   #2
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5) Give amulet of inertia some positive property, say free action, also make its slowness 1d3 instead of 3.

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9) Launchers are dropped/created with a small amount of ammo as well.
5) Amulet of inertia already gives free action

9) I would like to see context sensitive drops, so rangers drop launcher & ammo etc.
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Old December 16, 2009, 14:28   #3
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1) Priest prayer books appear more often (dunno how anyone wins ironman as a priest. I get to around lvl 30 and die before I ever find pb3). I imagine it is similar with magic books.
I think you spend *all* your money on PB2 and PB3 in town. Sell your starting weapon and buy a whip (or go weaponless) if you need to. And if you have any extra you buy some other stuff. You can also scum for Maggot, restarting characters until PB2, PB3 and Maggot are in the starting town.

Some more proficient ironman player can probably elaborate more.
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Old December 16, 2009, 14:48   #4
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Does it? Learn something new everyday, scratch that one then.

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I think you spend *all* your money on PB2 and PB3 in town. Sell your starting weapon and buy a whip (or go weaponless) if you need to. And if you have any extra you buy some other stuff. You can also scum for Maggot, restarting characters until PB2, PB3 and Maggot are in the starting town.

Some more proficient ironman player can probably elaborate more.
I've tried that, but half the time there aren't pb2 and pb3 in town and I don't like restarting to get favourable starts as it feels a bit like cheating. The times they are there I have to sell everything to buy them and then I tend to die rather quickly.
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1 & 2 would be ameliorated if drops were increased in general as they should be. OTOH I think every single nov priest should drop PB1 and either a torch or a lantern so I'm not disagreeing with you.

I like 9, usually dropping some ammo with a launcher. Sometimes I throw a launcher at a foe to id its plusses and hope it doesn't break. That's really bad on so many levels.

I don't much care for the others.
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Old December 16, 2009, 21:38   #6
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I like 9, usually dropping some ammo with a launcher. Sometimes I throw a launcher at a foe to id its plusses and hope it doesn't break. That's really bad on so many levels.
Awesome, I didn't realize you could do this. I've thrown ammo but never a launcher.
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I like 3, 6, 8 and 9.

4 and 7 are the wrong solution to the problem (we need to make item generation more intelligent, not change the items)

1 & 2 are specific to ironman, and as a general rule we don't make changes specifically for ironmen.
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Thought I'd start a thread for all the smaller requests you'd like to see appear in the game. Here's mine:

1) Priest prayer books appear more often (dunno how anyone wins ironman as a priest. I get to around lvl 30 and die before I ever find pb3). I imagine it is similar with magic books.
Easily. You need patience and careful choise of how to fight monsters. However I usually buy pb3 before starting to dive with ironman priest (as you say you need it pretty soon).

If you can't afford pb3 you need to play it as warrior with some utility spells until you find one.
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