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Old June 7, 2011, 13:26   #21
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I still dont understand. I never bothered looking for treasure *at all*. Why do you do it? Please explain why digging for treasure is worth the time and effort.
I am not looking for burried treasure, though it is worth digging for the stuff near the surface if you have no_sell on.
I am looking for items.
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Old June 7, 2011, 13:41   #22
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I do pretty much the same thing. Having detect treasure gives you direction rather than just wandering through the dungeon. I also use detect evil to hunt uniques or just something to kill when there's no treasures about. And when A and B fail, detect stairs.
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Old June 7, 2011, 14:07   #23
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I do pretty much the same thing. Having detect treasure gives you direction rather than just wandering through the dungeon. I also use detect evil to hunt uniques or just something to kill when there's no treasures about. And when A and B fail, detect stairs.
I still don't get it

I just explore until I
a) realize the level feeling is low, and im powerful enough to go down a level
b) ive mapped the whole level

btw; I didnt mean to hi-jack your lovely thread Tobias!

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Old June 7, 2011, 14:24   #24
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I still don't get it

I just explore until I
a) realize the level feeling is low, and im powerful enough to go down a level
b) ive mapped the whole level
I never explore boring levels. If the feeling is low I just detect everything (stairs,traps,doors,items,monsters), and if I don't see anything nice, I directly head for the stairs.
If the feeling is middling, I make a big round around the level, detecting every screen. I also cast mapping if I have an abundant source.
Only for very high feelings do I check every room, by myself.

It looks like you play a very slow game, personally I don't find that style fun. But it gives you probably a higher rate of winners than mine.
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Old June 7, 2011, 14:27   #25
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I still don't get it

I just explore until I
a) realize the level feeling is low, and im powerful enough to go down a level
b) ive mapped the whole level

btw; I didnt mean to hi-jack your lovely thread Tobias!
Detect treasure detects items as well as treasure. It didn't do that in older versions, which I think is the reason you don't use it. Very handy, but also a bit abusive, kinda like antisummoning corridors. It makes rogue detect items/enchantment completely redundant.
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Old June 7, 2011, 15:18   #26
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Detect treasure detects items as well as treasure. It didn't do that in older versions, which I think is the reason you don't use it. Very handy, but also a bit abusive, kinda like antisummoning corridors. It makes rogue detect items/enchantment completely redundant.
Right, totally forgot that it used to detect only buried stuff. Don't really think it is very exploitive. Though I don't like to use ASCs, they are a bit boring.

I totally forgot about detect enchantment. It is usefull for a mage, as you can drop the detect treasure items then. Although it would make just as much sense to give mages detect treasure at level 30 instead of never and replace detect enchant.

But it is far from being the only useless spell.
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Keep in mind that you can also buy scrolls that do the same thing the rod does. 15 scrolls of treasure location will last you a fairly long time and do not cost much.
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Old June 7, 2011, 17:11   #28
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Keep in mind that you can also buy scrolls that do the same thing the rod does. 15 scrolls of treasure location will last you a fairly long time and do not cost much.
Yes, I know. But it just feels so wasteful, to use a scroll ( or a staff charge ), on a boring level. I always try to use those more, but then feel much too greedy to really use them. This ends up with me having 10 of the scrolls in my inventory when I find the rod.
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To Nolendil: I have only won once. about 2 years ago. This is also only my second on_sell game. I will be suprised if I make it to level 50.
Since I've never been deeper than dlevel 46, this will still be very interesting to me no matter what happens.
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I'm currently at episode 7.3 and wonder why you're keeping your Rapier of Slay Orc (no useful effect on that) and your Wand of Magic Missile (its damage per turn is getting less and less useful and it seems that, like me, you keep those wands in case you run out of mana but actually always forget to use them ).
I would have squelched one of those instead of the !oSpeed at 8:20.

I also wondered why you squelched your mushroom of Terror, they make you temporarily fast at the expense of being afraid which doesn't matter for your mage.
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