Banish, Destruction, and Clearing Vaults

Wraitheist · August 31, 2013, 14:36

Hey guys, since a lot has changed in the last few versions of the game, I just wanted to clarify a few things:

How do you you guys use Banishment, *Banishment*, Destruction, and *Destruction*? I've been collecting them in my house for my current character, but what situations do you save them for? Also, does Destruction destroy artifacts?

Can you use Banishment or *Banishment* to clear a monster pit? My guess is that you stand a good chance of dying.

More generally, how do you go about clearing vaults/pits? Now that TO only zaps one monster, I find myself skipping all but the tamest vaults.

Derakon · August 31, 2013, 15:15

Let's just clear up some terms first:

There's Earthquake and Destruction. There's no *Destruction*. There's Banishment and Mass Banishment. There's no *Banishment*. I don't think any items in Vanilla have stars in their names any more.

All of these work on vaults. However, Destruction will remove all items it "hits", including artifacts. Banishment of course never affects uniques. Destruction can still be handy for removing monsters, especially in the more open designs where you can lure the monsters away from the items, or if there's just a few monsters that you can't handle -- nuke them and deal with the rest normally.

Wraitheist · August 31, 2013, 15:26

Thanks for the info, Derakon. I'm playing 3.4.1 and I have both a staff and scroll of *Destruction* in my home right now. I also have a potion of *Healing*. Are you referring to 3.5?

Kosonen · August 31, 2013, 15:57

Don't forget ?*Acquirement*.

Raajaton · August 31, 2013, 17:11

There's also !*Enlightenment*

Raajaton · August 31, 2013, 17:40

I typically keep 1 or 2 destruction srolls or staves on me in case of emergency. They can be useful to have if there's a greater undead pit on a level you really want to explore, but can't deal with, or you start getting some out of control summons you can't deal with. Beyond that I tend to save the rest of my destruction and sources of banishment for the final battles against sauron and morgoth.

MattB · August 31, 2013, 19:03

And ?*Enchant Armour*

MattB · August 31, 2013, 19:04

And ?*Enchant Weapon*

Derakon · August 31, 2013, 20:50

Okay, okay, I spoke hastily. There's still plenty of * items in the game.

But are you sure that your items are *Destruction* and not just Destruction? I thought the stars had been removed from that item since there's no need to differentiate it from a lower-tier item.

Raajaton · August 31, 2013, 20:51

I believe it is still marked as *Destruction*, which I've always found to be strange, since i've never seen a regular Destruction.

August 31, 2013, 14:36	#1
Wraitheist Adept Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 133	Banish, Destruction, and Clearing Vaults Hey guys, since a lot has changed in the last few versions of the game, I just wanted to clarify a few things: How do you you guys use Banishment, Banishment, Destruction, and Destruction? I've been collecting them in my house for my current character, but what situations do you save them for? Also, does Destruction destroy artifacts? Can you use Banishment or Banishment to clear a monster pit? My guess is that you stand a good chance of dying. More generally, how do you go about clearing vaults/pits? Now that TO only zaps one monster, I find myself skipping all but the tamest vaults.

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August 31, 2013, 15:15	#2
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,024	Let's just clear up some terms first: There's Earthquake and Destruction. There's no Destruction. There's Banishment and Mass Banishment. There's no Banishment. I don't think any items in Vanilla have stars in their names any more. All of these work on vaults. However, Destruction will remove all items it "hits", including artifacts. Banishment of course never affects uniques. Destruction can still be handy for removing monsters, especially in the more open designs where you can lure the monsters away from the items, or if there's just a few monsters that you can't handle -- nuke them and deal with the rest normally.

August 31, 2013, 15:26	#3
Wraitheist Adept Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 133	Thanks for the info, Derakon. I'm playing 3.4.1 and I have both a staff and scroll of Destruction in my home right now. I also have a potion of Healing. Are you referring to 3.5?

August 31, 2013, 15:57	#4
Kosonen Rookie Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 15	Don't forget ?Acquirement.

August 31, 2013, 17:11	#5
Raajaton Swordsman Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 296	There's also !Enlightenment

August 31, 2013, 17:40	#6
Raajaton Swordsman Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 296	I typically keep 1 or 2 destruction srolls or staves on me in case of emergency. They can be useful to have if there's a greater undead pit on a level you really want to explore, but can't deal with, or you start getting some out of control summons you can't deal with. Beyond that I tend to save the rest of my destruction and sources of banishment for the final battles against sauron and morgoth.

August 31, 2013, 19:03	#7
MattB Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,184	And ?Enchant Armour

August 31, 2013, 19:04	#8
MattB Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,184	And ?Enchant Weapon

August 31, 2013, 20:50	#9
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,024	Okay, okay, I spoke hastily. There's still plenty of * items in the game. But are you sure that your items are Destruction and not just Destruction? I thought the stars had been removed from that item since there's no need to differentiate it from a lower-tier item.

August 31, 2013, 20:51	#10
Raajaton Swordsman Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 296	I believe it is still marked as Destruction, which I've always found to be strange, since i've never seen a regular Destruction.

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