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Old October 7, 2017, 09:49   #1
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Bonuses at level 20, 40 etc

Am I right that Rangers get an extra shot per round at level 20, and again at 40?

Are there any other bonuses like this in the game, for other classes?
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Old October 7, 2017, 12:10   #2
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Yep, that's right.
Also, warriors get immunity to fear at clevel 30, rogues get +1 stealth every ten levels.
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Old October 7, 2017, 21:31   #3
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And priests and mages get increased ball spell diameter at CL 26, which is a pretty useless bonus. In the good old days, warriors got an extra blow, too. That really set them apart from Paladins and Rogues for melee, since getting more than five blows now is extremely difficult, except with the lightest weapons (which you mostly don't use in the endgame.) I really miss that feature.

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Yep, that's right.
Also, warriors get immunity to fear at clevel 30, rogues get +1 stealth every ten levels.
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Old October 7, 2017, 22:03   #4
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In the good old days, warriors got an extra blow, too.
When was that?

I played various versions from 2.7.9v6 up to 3.0.5. Plus PcAngband 1.4.1, which AFAIK was just a port of Angband 2.6.0. In none of these versions, warriors got an extra blow.
(although some people advocated for it for many years)
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Old October 7, 2017, 22:46   #5
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It wasn't technically an extra blow. It was just a different blows table that allowed for 6 blows with most weapons, while everyone else was at 5 or fewer. In practice, an extra blow for warriors.
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Really? I thought rangers got +1 shot at CL1, and that's it.
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It wasn't technically an extra blow. It was just a different blows table that allowed for 6 blows with most weapons, while everyone else was at 5 or fewer. In practice, an extra blow for warriors.
6 blows with a very high strength and a decent dexterity for weapons weighting 24 lb or less.
A real extra blow would have made warriors to perfer a heavier weapon over a dagger at early levels.
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Old October 8, 2017, 03:54   #8
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YES, warriors used to get +1 blow at around DL 30. It made getting 6 blows possible with pretty much any weapon in the game (except deathwreaker and grond.)
This changed when fractional blows were added, circa V3.5.The result is a significant Nerf to the warrior class.
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YES, warriors used to get +1 blow at around DL 30. It made getting 6 blows possible with pretty much any weapon in the game (except deathwreaker and grond.)
This changed when fractional blows were added, circa V3.5.The result is a significant Nerf to the warrior class.
I do not remember this ever having been a thing. Warriors have always had a different blows table, that went up to 6, as opposed to 5 or 4 for mage/priest. They never, to my knowledge, have just gotten a flat +1 blow.

Which isn't to say I'm opposed to such an idea.
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I don't have the 3.0.5 source handy, but I'm 99% sure warriors had nominal max blows 5, but with an extra blow added during midgame. It basically made warriors into heavy weapons specialists.
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