Angband 4.1.3

[fph]

Originally Posted by Monkey Face

Otherwise under you proposal, 2 ID object scrolls will need to be wasted on it.

Not necessarily; you can always sell/donate items to shops to identify them. Often it's the most convenient thing to do for objects that seem useless. Should I waste a ?id on that wand that didn't make a big boom when I pointed it at a monster? Nope, I'd rather sell it.

[fph]

Played a couple of rangers which both got obliterated around dlvl50. Some observations on the new ranger spells:

* Satisfy Hunger at clvl 3 seems very early and unnecessarily cheap. Basically the ranger never has to touch any food, not even the ration they start with.
* Cure & Resist poison are OK, but they feel like a duplicate and overall kinda meh. They make the traditional kobold ranger combo a bit less powerful.
* I didn't get to the point where I could cast Cover Tracks and Decoy reliably. They seem interesting concepts but I have to get used to how they work (and this is a good thing, because it adds variety).
* There are a lot more junk spellbooks in the dungeon with the new magic system. It is a bit confusing at first that I can only read a very limited subset of the nature books, even if they have the right color, but I guess it's just me being used to the old Angband. Maybe it would be a good idea to add "It can only be read by XXX class" to spellbook descriptions, or an explicit "you cannot read this book". EDIT: or, even, auto-squelch out-of-class town books on character start.
* I noticed it now especially but probably it's already an old change: in the olden days, stairs used to come mainly inside rooms; now they are either in special rooms or at the end of dead-end corridors. This makes dungeon exploration a bit less fluid for me, because I have to go to the end of corridors even when it looks clear that I am not interested in where they end, and also because stairs tend to be clustered inside special rooms (often there's like 5 or 6 of them in the same special room) instead of more evenly scattered around the dungeon.

[Sky]

It's my humble opinion of non-contributor that Angband needs a 4.1.4 rollback that includes the latest fixes but keeps the original classes (including the ranger's and items shooting bonus), and then move these to Angband 5.0

[wobbly]

Regarding spellbooks, the colours are set by the class rather then the realm, so it's still possible to have 8 book colours even though there are only 4 realms.

[fph]

Originally Posted by Sky

It's my humble opinion of non-contributor that Angband needs a 4.1.4 rollback that includes the latest fixes but keeps the original classes (including the ranger's and items shooting bonus), and then move these to Angband 5.0

Don't get me wrong --- I like the new system. I'm just giving feedback and suggestions to improve it.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Sky

It's my humble opinion of non-contributor that Angband needs a 4.1.4 rollback that includes the latest fixes but keeps the original classes (including the ranger's and items shooting bonus), and then move these to Angband 5.0

AFAIK there aren't any major 4.1.3 bugs that are fixed in current master. Willing to be contradicted.

[Sky]

Yesterday i ruined someone's life.









I taught some kid to play angband.



He doesnt know it yet but he is doomed to spend the next 10 years learning this game.

BUT i did make him download 4.1.2 so he still has easymode Ranger and Mage to play for that extra edge in winning.

[EpicMan]

Welcome to the Hotel Angband-fornia

Levelin' up at the Hotel Angband-fornia /
You can play any time you want /
But you can never leave...




(Parodying part of "Hotel California" by the Eagles)

[wobbly]

"You feel drugged!"
"You can see clearly again"

Ah, no I can't because I'm blind.

[Derakon]

Originally Posted by wobbly

"You feel drugged!"
"You can see clearly again"

Ah, no I can't because I'm blind.

You can clearly see...nothing. Probably still better than hallucinating!