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Old October 5, 2020, 10:40   #1
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New possessor favourite, Loki the Trickster

Finally a strong norse god dropped a body: Loki the trickster.

I played Combat Echizen for quite a while and he is ridiculously strong against many foes (like the Destroyer) but not all. However, although Wahha-man the Golden is a bit weaker, I found him more fun to play.
But this dude? He just dropped, but it feels like it will be a new favourite. Very strong Melee, Archery AND Magic. Plus Summons.

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Old October 5, 2020, 12:54   #2
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Shouldn't Loki be vulnerable to Poison (or possibly Acid) instead of cold? I mean, the poor guy had snake venom dripping on his face whenever Sigyn's handkerchief was full.
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Totally. Cold makes zero sense for a Norse god
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The etymology of the name Loki has been extensively debated. The name has at times been associated with the Old Norse word logi ('flame'), but there seems not to be a sound linguistic basis for this. Rather, the later Scandinavian variants of the name (such as Faroese Lokki, Danish Lokkemand, Norwegian Loke and Lokke, Swedish Luki and Luku, along with Finnish Lukki) point to an origin in the Germanic root *luk-, which denoted things to do with loops (like knots, hooks, closed-off rooms, and locks). This corresponds with usages such as the Swedish lokkanät and Faroese Lokkanet ('cobweb', literally 'Lokke's web')
While the Loki/flame association probably isn't etymologically accurate, it is nonetheless very old and likely influenced some Loki myths even in Norse times; so I would presume the original designer of Loki the monster was aware of that association and ran with it, and that's why he has an aura of fire while being vulnerable to cold.
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No. Other gods may vulnerable to cold, but *not* Loki, who will be released from his chains in Fimbulwinter, and finally gain his vengeance at Ragnarok.
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No. Other gods may vulnerable to cold, but *not* Loki, who will be released from his chains in Fimbulwinter, and finally gain his vengeance at Ragnarok.
Especially considering Loki was, in many pieces of lore not just the marvel movies, originally a Jötunn, A.K.A A frost Giant
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The Frog (originally Zang) interpretation of Loki, I suspect, owes a lot to how he's presented in Wagner's Ring cycle. Wagner wrote his operas at a time when the Loki/flame connection was very popular; so Wagner's Loki is essentially Loge, Spirit of Fire, and the gods eventually go up in flames. (Zang did occasionally take inspiration from Marvel, too; look at the Frog/Zang version of Surtur.)
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