Counter-intuitive R/C combinations

Chud · February 22, 2018, 02:28

In the interest of something new, I'm going to try some counter-intuitive race/class combinations, just for fun and to see if they really are notably more difficult. I think I'll start with a half-troll mage.

My guess is that they are going to be harder to keep alive early, will have mixed benefits in the mid game (regeneration is nice for mages too, for example), and once I get to the point where I can build up stats it will start to not matter anymore... but we'll see.

Pete Mack · February 22, 2018, 03:12

HT mage is a pretty popular combo, with a high fraction of winners posted.
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-browse...Mage&n=&e=&s=0

Chud · February 22, 2018, 03:20

Didn't actually look at the ladder to see what other people have done; probably should have. There probably aren't really any truly new ideas...

What's the general consensus on the most difficult, but hopefully interesting, starting combo? Probably the only race I've never really played... human. But humans are boring....

Derakon · February 22, 2018, 04:55

Humans are less boring than you'd think, and are probably one of the better "challenge races". The lack of any intrinsics makes the equipment puzzle harder, which is frankly a good thing for experienced players. They do level up quite quickly, which is a pleasant bonus.

wobbly · February 22, 2018, 05:32

Not sure about hardest but the gnome warrior (hobbits have better stealth/archery in a little fighter) or a hobbit mage(terrible hps) are options.

Pete Mack · February 22, 2018, 05:39

Elf mage is on the list. So much negative CON.

Sky · February 22, 2018, 11:48

you mean Kobold Mage.

HT Mage is pretty darn strong. That Regen really helps when you have not many SP.

Timo Pietilä · February 22, 2018, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

Elf mage is on the list. So much negative CON.

Elf anything is a challenge combo IMO. And also IMO that is something that should not be.

Low CON and small hit dice is a big penalty. In order to get decent HP at deep levels elves need bigger CON bonuses than any other race, and CON bonuses with item combo that is also otherwise good are not that easy to get.

Ingwe Ingweron · February 22, 2018, 15:41

Just win with every race/class combo. Looking forward to the new classes to add to that repertoire.

kandrc · February 22, 2018, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobbly

Not sure about hardest but the gnome warrior (hobbits have better stealth/archery in a little fighter) or a hobbit mage(terrible hps) are options.

The stealth bonus actually makes hobbit mage pretty easy. Yes, they're fragile, but that SOP for mages. Good stealth makes that fragility less important.

February 22, 2018, 02:28	#1
Chud Swordsman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 309	Counter-intuitive R/C combinations In the interest of something new, I'm going to try some counter-intuitive race/class combinations, just for fun and to see if they really are notably more difficult. I think I'll start with a half-troll mage. My guess is that they are going to be harder to keep alive early, will have mixed benefits in the mid game (regeneration is nice for mages too, for example), and once I get to the point where I can build up stats it will start to not matter anymore... but we'll see.

February 22, 2018, 11:48	#7
Sky Veteran Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: London-ish Age: 50 Posts: 2,114	you mean Kobold Mage. HT Mage is pretty darn strong. That Regen really helps when you have not many SP. __________________ "i can take this dracolich"

February 22, 2018, 15:41	#9
Ingwe Ingweron Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Posts: 2,123	Just win with every race/class combo. Looking forward to the new classes to add to that repertoire. __________________ “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.” ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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