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Old July 2, 2009, 17:29   #1
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What is the easiest way to kill this blasted Q for a ranger? I tried hitting him from around a corner with ball spells and the like, but they do nothing to him. I can't even get within his site without him summoning the whole underworld to descend upon me. I know I don't NEED to kill him and can very easily run away or avoid him, but I would rather the big 'M' not summon him once I set up that encounter.
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Old July 2, 2009, 19:42   #2
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By far the easiest way to is get him in a hockey stick. If you get lucky and he spawns next to a wall, you can dig your way to an exploited Q:

Code:
###########
###@XXXXXX#
###X#####X#
..Q..####X#
.....####X#
.........@.
.....######
If digging and/or hockey sticks make you feel dirty but you still insist on killing it, I'd bring a lot of teleport other and banishment, and avoid engaging it when it spawns far away from cover, where you'd have to walk up to melee range in line of sight. Even if you don't melee it, you'll still need to be point blank to shoot it when it can see you, otherwise it'll just spawn pass blockers.
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Old July 2, 2009, 19:50   #3
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Personally I reckon he's WAY more trouble than he's worth. Even if Morgy summons him, it's a single turn of -tOther and he's out of the picture for the rest of the fight (assuming you don't teleport yourself).
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Old July 2, 2009, 19:57   #4
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By far the easiest way to is get him in a hockey stick. If you get lucky and he spawns next to a wall, you can dig your way to an exploited Q:
Do it fast before some bastard implements symmetric targetting. (Only joking)
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Old July 2, 2009, 21:42   #5
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Thanks for the advice. Looks like I'll sit that one out unless I have an extrmely favorable situation.
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Old July 2, 2009, 23:45   #6
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I've never killed this guy without using a hockey stick situation. I used to feel guilty about doing that, but then I realized the monsters use hockey sticks on me so it's fair.
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Old July 3, 2009, 02:16   #7
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I've never killed this guy without using a hockey stick situation. I used to feel guilty about doing that, but then I realized the monsters use hockey sticks on me so it's fair.
Get him in a location with restricted LOS (a pillar room or a destroyed area), and you can just go in and wallop him. If he summons nasties, phase away and teleport them. Eventually he'll summon something like weak hounds or trolls, and then he's dead. (Unlike the lesser Q's, he doesn't have a blink spell.)
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Old July 3, 2009, 04:36   #8
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Actually I take back that I have never killed him without the hockey stick. I found him in a cell in the large Cells vault all alone. Way too easy. He never teleported away (not sure if he can).
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Old July 3, 2009, 12:37   #9
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the rule for targeting enemies (unless it has changed) goes like this...

(I will be using numbers to help with the explanation. The numbers up top represent the distance the monster is from the wall, and the distance you must be from it. 0 is the wall you are using to affect the monster's line of sight.)
Example 1:
Code:
10
Q#######
..@.....
.01
This is the basic case. Monster is directly next to a wall. To target it, you must be at the 2nd square from the wall the monster is at.

Example 2:
Code:
210
Q.########
....@....
..012
In this case, the monster is one square away from the wall. Thus, you must be one square further back

Example 3:
Code:
6543210
Q.....############
............@....
......0123456
This can go on and on until you are so far, that you are simply too far away to see the Q

Example 4:
This can also work vertically, as can be seen by Marble Dice's post

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By far the easiest way to is get him in a hockey stick. If you get lucky and he spawns next to a wall, you can dig your way to an exploited Q:

Code:
###########
###@XXXXXX#
###X#####X#
..Q..####X#
.....####X#
.........@.
.....######
If digging and/or hockey sticks make you feel dirty but you still insist on killing it, I'd bring a lot of teleport other and banishment, and avoid engaging it when it spawns far away from cover, where you'd have to walk up to melee range in line of sight. Even if you don't melee it, you'll still need to be point blank to shoot it when it can see you, otherwise it'll just spawn pass blockers.
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Old July 5, 2009, 05:29   #10
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What is the easiest way to kill this blasted Q?
I can't remember the last time I killed him. Ignore him. He's not important.
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