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Old April 8, 2013, 00:08   #1
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Lightbulb Sil : Suggestions

Some ideas for SIL:

+ Unique challenge rooms that are pre-defined and added randomly to floors.
- For example : A room full of spiders and artifact
- A huge room with a lot of archers.

+ Give even more XP for some non-slaying actions:
- Making a monster flee down the stairs (To avoid unnecessary kills)
- Slay a monster with a weapon of its slaying type (only once)
- Survive through near death experience (less than 3 HP)
- Find some special unique rooms

+ Add more races, especially ones that have initial high STR

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Old April 8, 2013, 03:12   #2
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Some ideas for SIL:

+ Unique challenge rooms that are pre-defined and added randomly to floors.
- For example : A room full of spiders and artifact
- A huge room with a lot of archers.
There are already rooms like this called 'Vaults', but we could always use more! Maybe construct what they'd look like?

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+ Give even more XP for some non-slaying actions:
- Making a monster flee down the stairs (To avoid unnecessary kills)
Not sure how this one would work. Would it use the same exp pool as the one for killing monsters? It would be an interesting way for more "pacifist" builds to get exp...
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- Slay a monster with a weapon of its slaying type (only once)
I feel that the 100 exp for identifying a slaying ego is more or less representative of this.
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- Survive through near death experience (less than 3 HP)
If this gave experience, I would let the first grey mold hit me, heal a bit if I ended up at the wrong HP, etc until I hit 1 health. If it gave experience more than once, I would keep doing this over and over.
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- Find some special unique rooms
The experience gained for seeing monsters is already a good reward for exploration and facing potential danger, I'm not sure what this would add.

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+ Add more races, especially ones that have initial high STR
This is not likely, due to how closely Sil follows its First Age theme - maybe as a secret unlockable?
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Old April 8, 2013, 05:06   #3
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This is not likely, due to how closely Sil follows its First Age theme - maybe as a secret unlockable?
You could always play as an orc! Hideous grace, crap stealth, but they sure are strong and they could be decent-ish smiths I guess.
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Old April 8, 2013, 06:14   #4
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Wouldn't really make sense, though. I'm not sure anyone should be much stronger than the Noldor.
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Wouldn't really make sense, though. I'm not sure anyone should be much stronger than the Noldor.
Giants? Balrogs? Did ents exist yet?
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Did ents exist yet?
Yep. Aulė's missus ran them up with offcuts left over from the creation of the Two Trees.

A cursory googling suggests that giants are, um, a complete mystery.

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Old April 8, 2013, 13:14   #7
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The most likely candidates for new Sil races IMHO would be:
  • Druedain (like the wild men that helped the Rohirrim before the battle of the Pelennor);
  • Nandor/Laiquendi - the green elves of Ossiriand. Like Sindar, but stealthier and less tough
  • Avari (sometimes called dark elves) - refused the original summons to Valinor, had no allegiance to the Noldor and Sindar kings
  • Easterlings - the men who came to Beleriand much later than the Edain

Ents maybe, but they were more creatures of the Valar (like the eagles) than regular beings.
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Old April 8, 2013, 21:53   #8
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The most likely candidates for new Sil races IMHO would be:
  • Druedain (like the wild men that helped the Rohirrim before the battle of the Pelennor);
  • Nandor/Laiquendi - the green elves of Ossiriand. Like Sindar, but stealthier and less tough
  • Avari (sometimes called dark elves) - refused the original summons to Valinor, had no allegiance to the Noldor and Sindar kings
  • Easterlings - the men who came to Beleriand much later than the Edain

Ents maybe, but they were more creatures of the Valar (like the eagles) than regular beings.
But I *do* kind of like the idea mentioned upthread of playing as an orc.

You're a traitor dreaming of greatness... something like that.
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But I *do* kind of like the idea mentioned upthread of playing as an orc.

You're a traitor dreaming of greatness... something like that.
+1, Orcs sound great. They could have melee mastery, archery penalty and perception penalty.
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+1, Orcs sound great. They could have melee mastery, archery penalty and perception penalty.
And of course, you could model the pesky orc archer with a second 'house' if you wanted...
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