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Old July 6, 2020, 13:50   #411
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Estie, mind posting a char dump with the weapon? I'd like to see just how bad ass it is in action.
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Old July 7, 2020, 14:07   #412
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http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=23701

It was found by a priest and there dont seem to be any items giving extra blows, so the numbers are not all that impressive.
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Old July 7, 2020, 21:00   #413
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Another priest just found this sweet stat stick on the dive:

a) the Morning Star of Bregion (2d6) (+11,+25) [+8] <+6, +5>
Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3450 feet (level 69)

+6 constitution.
+5 infravision.
Slays dragons (powerfully), demons (powerfully), giants, animals,
evil creatures.
Branded with weak acid.
Provides immunity to Fire, Cold.
Provides resistance to Acid, Lightning, Dark, Disenchantment.
Cannot be harmed by Acid, Fire.
Feather Falling. Prevents paralysis. Blessed by the gods (combat
bonuses for holy casters).

When activated, it heals 35% of max HP (minimum 300HP), cut
damage, and cures stunning, poisoning, blindness, and confusion.
Takes 362 to 444 turns to recharge at your current speed.
Your chance of success is 94.0%
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Old July 12, 2020, 12:49   #414
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a) the Mace of Disruption of Gwinim (13d8) (+6,+18) <+1, +3>
Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4850 feet (level 97)

+1 strength.
+1 constitution.
+3 infravision.
+3 tunneling.
+1 attack speed.
Slays undead.
Cannot be harmed by Acid, Fire.
Speeds regeneration. Grants the ability to see invisible things.
Aggravates creatures nearby.

Combat info:
7.0 blows/round.
This weapon may benefit from one or more off-weapon brands or
slays.
Average damage/round: 3733.8 vs demons, 2472.4 vs undead, 1841.7
vs evil creatures, and 1211 vs. others.


Slaying evil (and demons) thanks to the spell and attempting to enchant it further doesnt seem to work - a few dozen casts only increased the initial +5 to +6.

The full dump:

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=23717
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Old July 13, 2020, 23:04   #415
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The Mace of Disruption of the balance of the game. that is ridiculous damage. You're literally doing 3X the damage I do in a good warrior game.
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Old July 14, 2020, 04:33   #416
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i think you have a winner there.
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Old July 14, 2020, 12:41   #417
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Can anyone explain those numbers? From the character sheet Estie posted, the total melee damage of Estie's weapon including all bonuses from equipment is

13d8 + 72 = 130.5 average per blow.

7 blows makes 913.5 per round, not 1211.

So that's off a fair bit. But even more the slay undead version should only multiply the 13d8 so it should be:

(13*4.5*3 + 72)*7 = 1732.5 per round, not 2472.4.

What am I missing?
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Old July 14, 2020, 13:20   #418
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Originally Posted by drquicksilver View Post
Can anyone explain those numbers? From the character sheet Estie posted, the total melee damage of Estie's weapon including all bonuses from equipment is

13d8 + 72 = 130.5 average per blow.

7 blows makes 913.5 per round, not 1211.

So that's off a fair bit. But even more the slay undead version should only multiply the 13d8 so it should be:

(13*4.5*3 + 72)*7 = 1732.5 per round, not 2472.4.

What am I missing?
Probably the other items the character is wearing, i.e. a =+15 dam and a "+5 Weaponmastery.

I'm also trying to wrap my head around it slays undead but does more damage to Demons, guessing that's a "disruption" thing?
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Old July 14, 2020, 13:40   #419
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I think the damage calculation includes criticals and maybe something more as well?
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Old July 14, 2020, 14:26   #420
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Probably the other items the character is wearing, i.e. a =+15 dam and a "+5 Weaponmastery.

I'm also trying to wrap my head around it slays undead but does more damage to Demons, guessing that's a "disruption" thing?
No, the damage ring, weapon mastery amulet and all other EQ with combat bonuses on are included in the +72 shown on the character dump (as well as the bonus from high strength etc).

The demon damage being higher than the undead will be the priest/paladin spell you can cast which gives you a temporary off-weapon "slays demons powerfully" effect.
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