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Old October 24, 2007, 19:49   #1
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Ringil for sale

I was mooching around the internet and found this site selling replicas of Ringil.
Interesting, but I don't think it would be legal in the UK. Nonetheless, it might be of interest to some of you.
http://www.swordsofhonor.com/highelvensword.html.
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Old October 24, 2007, 21:00   #2
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They are perfectly legal. You can own real katana and waikazashi too - the law simply requires that the edges of blades over a certain length are blunt, and that sharp blades under that length have a functional use. (ie "slays orcs nicely" won't do it!)

The companies that make those kind of swords usually manufacture them with non-lethal edges. The real travesty is when a collector imports antique folded steel from the east and basically takes the edge to a belt-grinder for 15 minutes. That makes me cry a little bit.
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Old October 24, 2007, 21:10   #3
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This particular sword is described as being "RAZOR SHARP!", and "fully battle-ready" whatever that means.

EDIT: There's a note at the foot of the page explaining that "battle-ready" means the sword is made from high carbon spring steel.

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Old October 24, 2007, 22:41   #4
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LOL

I never understood what folks see on this insanely designed fantasy weaponry, when they can get a perfectly fine, 100% historically accurate sword for a fraction of the price.

Also for the law, I don't think there is any requirement for blunt edges here in CZ. Just you're required to carry the sword in the scabbard is that a word? I rely on my dictionary here on public places.

Oh and BTW the hilt must be the same piece of steel as the blade. Otherwise it will fall apart on the first blow. That elven thing linked above looks like a piece of polished brass glued to the blade
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Old October 24, 2007, 23:37   #5
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My main problem with the sword is that it looks far too ordinary to be Ringil.
Ringil, as I imagine it, would be impossible to forge in the real world because it would be so obviously magical. You know, glowing and stuff.

Oh, and yes, you used the word "scabbard" correctly.

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Old October 25, 2007, 00:00   #6
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Oh and BTW the hilt must be the same piece of steel as the blade. Otherwise it will fall apart on the first blow. That elven thing linked above looks like a piece of polished brass glued to the blade
Well, it says "the full tang runs through the pommel and is peened (hammered flat)". The tang is the hilt portion.

I don't really see what about that sword is Ringil though, it just looks like a sword.
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Does it really need to look special? I expect elven designs to be mean and lean, elegant, no-bullshit minimalistic. That sword is all that, but I admit it's a tad plain and low-end looking.

Personaly I wasn't all hip about the elven designs used in the LotR movies. Too curly. You?
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Personaly I wasn't all hip about the elven designs used in the LotR movies. Too curly. You?

I thought everything relating to elves in the movies looked like bullshit.
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I thought everything relating to elves in the movies looked like bullshit.

Agreed - it was probably the weakest point of the movies. They (with the exception of Legolas, who was for the most part IMO very well done) were portrayed as ethereal beings with floaty robes who spoke slowly and were very serious. But Tolkien describes them as strongly connected to the earth,
and their most common behaviour was singing and laughter.
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Old October 26, 2007, 00:15   #10
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Does it really need to look special? I expect elven designs to be mean and lean, elegant, no-bullshit minimalistic. That sword is all that, but I admit it's a tad plain and low-end looking.

Personaly I wasn't all hip about the elven designs used in the LotR movies. Too curly. You?
Hm. I'm no expert on this and movies based on books never quite look how I imagined things to look anyway. The movie blades seemed a bit curvy...

I think the elven swords, especially the ones of the "elf kings", were supposed to be rather special looking. Apparently in The Hobbit Tolkien describes Glamdring and Sting with:

"Two [swords] caught their eyes particularly, because of their beautiful scabbards and jewelled hilts." They also had runes.

However Ringil was apparently forged by a dwarf, not an elf. Still I think it would look more impressive somehow than this brass thing
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