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Old October 3, 2012, 23:46   #61
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I have tried the wall_fix patch, then the fixed fonts, and in both cases I replaced the old files with the new ones, but neither helped Nor does deleting font-win.prf. And when I try to edit font-win.prf as suggested in some replies, it says that the access was denied so I can't save the changes Yet another workaround suggests to interact with the visuals, but the menu seems to have changed since 3.0.9.

Any suggestions? I'd prefer blocks as walls, but hashes would be fine as well. To put it straight: At the moment, walls are not displayed at all.
Are you logged on as an administrator? in Vista you have to be logged on as an administrator to access certain security options. Or sometimes you have to select properties on the application shortcut and select run as administrator.
I myself use vista all the time and I always disable font-win in the pref files, if I want pure ascii characters.
try restarting your computer, then makes sure you logged on as an administrator, and then try renaming lib/pref/ font-win to font-winx and then press (enter) to save that name. Works for on 3.4, and virtually every variant I have tried even Sang with it's sdl interface.
I would say your main problem is getting around Vista's security interface to access that file, that's why make sure you are logged on with administrator privelages.
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Old October 4, 2012, 09:33   #62
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Are you logged on as an administrator? in Vista you have to be logged on as an administrator to access certain security options.
Angband doesn't require anything like that unless you have managed to install it to some secure place where you shouldn't have installed it. In that case you probably don't have write permission to save folder either, which would suck. Angband itself runs with user rights without any problems, and nothing you do inside it requires admin rights.

If the install folders are in some place you have edit rights (like sub-folder in "documents") then there is no system restriction to edit those files (unless deliberately put there by your sysadmin, in which case I say either your sysadmin is a moron or you should not be playing angband in that workstation).

I say this to prevent people from using admin-rights when they are not really needed. Logging in as administrator is a bad habit that has roots in sub-win XP era where people didn't know how to write programs that didn't require admin-rights to run properly (some remnants of that still exist, there are some idiotic softwares still around).

I get "access denied" if I double-click the file, because that tries to open it in some "internet rating and local user management dll" where normal users don't have rights and not for editing.

I suggest installing notepad++ (google it) and editing files with it.
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Old October 4, 2012, 17:04   #63
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Well Timo I really don't agree with you on that, I know what works for me, and hey it's worth a suggestion, I would much rather be longed on as an administrator to many any change I desire as the sole user of a computer then just a user, but hey different strokes for different folks.
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Old October 4, 2012, 21:54   #64
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Are you saying that if you download 3.4.0 from the website that walls are not displayed at all?
Yes. Sorry about the confusion...
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try restarting your computer, then makes sure you logged on as an administrator, and then try renaming lib/pref/ font-win to font-winx and then press (enter) to save that name. Works for on 3.4, and virtually every variant I have tried even Sang with it's sdl interface.
You can rename the file without admin rights, but the walls remain blank
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Angband doesn't require anything like that unless you have managed to install it to some secure place where you shouldn't have installed it.
The Angband folder is located in C:\Program Files\Games\Roguelikes That's standard, isn't it?
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I get "access denied" if I double-click the file, because that tries to open it in some "internet rating and local user management dll" where normal users don't have rights and not for editing.
I have modified win-pref with the Angband folder being located on the desktop. Then I copied the folder to C:\Program Files\Games\Roguelikes, loaded the comp save - and the walls are still blank!
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Old October 4, 2012, 22:55   #65
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The Angband folder is located in C:\Program Files\Games\Roguelikes That's standard, isn't it?
A standard broken install (cannot save as normal user). Don't Do That.
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Old October 4, 2012, 23:19   #66
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The Angband folder is located in C:\Program Files\Games\Roguelikes That's standard, isn't it?
ISTR (and IANAE) that putting it pretty much anywhere but C:\Program Files works.
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Old October 5, 2012, 00:07   #67
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ISTR (and IANAE) that putting it pretty much anywhere but C:\Program Files works.
I think what could confuse some people is that old angabnd I know from 2.7.8 and up to 2.8.3 around there somewhere windows versions of angband had to placed in Crogram files to work, I found that out by reading the documentation from Ben Harrisons day's after I could not get the old windows versions of angband to work.
Nowdays I put everything into my documents, which makes them much easier to edit, add font's, delete old character saves and the like.
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Old October 5, 2012, 00:27   #68
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I think what could confuse some people is that old angabnd I know from 2.7.8 and up to 2.8.3 around there somewhere windows versions of angband had to placed in Crogram files to work, I found that out by reading the documentation from Ben Harrisons day's after I could not get the old windows versions of angband to work.
Nowdays I put everything into my documents, which makes them much easier to edit, add font's, delete old character saves and the like.
Actually I don't think it was C:Program files, it just had to be on C: in general.
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Angband doesn't install. Why would it be in program files?

I keep all my variants in a folder on my desktop. I keep everything on my desktop.
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Old October 5, 2012, 04:51   #70
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Angband doesn't install. Why would it be in program files?

I keep all my variants in a folder on my desktop. I keep everything on my desktop.
Not programs files specifically, this is what I was talking about.


To install Angband v2.7.8:

-- create a directory C:\ANGBAND,
-- copy wang278.exe (for 16 bit version) or wang278-32bit.exe (for 32 bit
version) to this directory,
-- run them to unpack,
-- run angband.exe.

If you wish to put it into a directory different from C:\ANGBAND, edit
angband.ini by hand and change all occurences of C:\ANGBAND.

What I added in this version:

-- sound support;
-- Alt+key, Shift+Alt+key etc can be used in keyboard mappings.

For general bug reports e-mail Ben Harrison (benh@linc.cis.upenn.edu),
for Windows specific bugs e-mail Skirmantas Kligys (kligys@scf.usc.edu).
Read Usenet group rec.games.roguelike.angband.

Have fun!
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