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Old July 21, 2014, 17:16   #11
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(no such thing as Fireball in Tolkein world, for example).
Hm, actually...

"I killed a goblin or two with a flash" - it's from "Hobbit". He used some fire magic in LoTR too.

IMO Sil went too far with their songs, obviously there was other magic too except songs, even some kind of, well, fireballs.
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Old July 26, 2014, 01:26   #12
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In LOTR mages were definitely powerfull, even without fireballs.
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Old July 26, 2014, 02:04   #13
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Gandalf was a Maia traveling incognito though. Also specifically a Maia in the service of Aule, who is associated with fire, forges, volcanoes, etc. The pyrotechnics go with the territory.

Anyway it's been a while since I read any of the Silmarillion; but the most striking example of magic that I recall from it was Eol's charm on Aredhel, which IIRC was basically mind control. Likewise Luthien's (less creepy, still powerful) spell of sleep against Morgoth. I think Sil got it right, insofar as most Elven magic seemed to work on a psychological rather than physical level.

(Like I said though, it's been a while.)
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Old July 26, 2014, 03:24   #14
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The best magics, as far as I remember, were Luthien's song at Sauron's tower, which undid all of Sauron's magic and blew up the tower, and Melian's active guarding of Doriath, which, if I recall, was in constant conflict with Morgoth or Sauron's magical attacks.

Gandalf supposedly killed a few goblins with a flash of light. I usually like to think that it was just a stray lightning, which was attributed to Gandalf.
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Old July 26, 2014, 07:05   #15
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If stray lightnings hit when and where you want them to hit, does it matter if somebody refuse causality there because he doesn't understand the mechanics of the process
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Old July 26, 2014, 07:13   #16
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ToME2 sorceror might be what you are looking for. Of the variants I know, thats the one with most powerful mages compared to other types.
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Old August 21, 2014, 00:37   #17
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It's more or less based on the ToME2 class, so you could try that variant too.
How's ToME2 compared to ToME4? A completely different game?
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Old August 21, 2014, 00:56   #18
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How's ToME2 compared to ToME4? A completely different game?
Totally different
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ToME2 sorceror might be what you are looking for. Of the variants I know, thats the one with most powerful mages compared to other types.
PosChengband's Sorcerers are decently powerful, too, though not nearly as broken as ToME2.
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Either I'm a moron or I can't find tome2 anywhere! Help?
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