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Old November 3, 2016, 11:52   #1
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Advice before entering 1000ft

Hi all,

I was never in the throne room. But now I'm close.
I'm wondering what equipment, skills, etc. to get to be sufficiently prepared.

I plan to get CON from the will tree and perhaps crit resistance before.
Also I assume I will need song of slaying and perhaps song of sharpness too?
I never sung before

Right now I can deal with stuff at 900ft ok. Something dark that hits hard is the only thing giving me problems.

Thanks for any advice!

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  [Sil 1.3.0-mpa Character Dump]

 Name   Brut          Age    4,603       Str   3
 Race   Noldor        Height             Dex   6 =  4          +2
 House  Feanor        Weight             Con   6 =  4  +2
                                         Gra   4 =  3  +1

 Game Turn   23,547   Melee  (+27,2d9)   Melee       27 = 19  +6  +1  +1
 Exp Pool       588   Bows   (+16,2d8)   Archery     16 = 10  +6  -1  +1
 Total Exp   63,588   Armor [+27,9-29]   Evasion     27 = 20  +6  +1
 Burden       171.4                      Stealth      1 =  0  +6  -5
 Max Burden   172.8   Health     59:59   Perception  11 =  5  +4  +2
 Depth         900'   Voice      41:41   Will        13 =  9  +4
 Min Depth     850'                      Smithing     8 =  0  +4  +3  +1
 Light Radius     3                      Song         4 =  0  +4

 You are the only child of a smith from the house of Feanor. You have
 light grey eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.






  [Equipment]

a) The Longsword 'Orcrist' (+2,2d5) [+2] <+2> 3.0 lb
   It improves your perception by 2.  It slays orcs and trolls.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
b) a Longbow of Nargothrond (+0,2d5) 3.0 lb
   It slays dragons and raukar.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) an Amethyst Ring of Warmth
   It provides resistance to cold.  
d) a Garnet Ring of Protection [+0,1d2]
e) a Dragon Tooth Amulet of Constitution <+1>
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It sustains your 
   constitution.  
f) a Brass Lantern of Brightness (6985 turns)
   It burns brightly, increasing your light radius by an
   additional square.  
g) The Mail Corslet of Fingon [-3,2d4] <+1>
   It increases your constitution and grace by 1.  It provides
   resistance to fear.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
h) a Cloak [+2]
i) a Round Shield of Protection [+0,1d5]
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
j) a Great Helm of Clarity [-1,1d4]
   It provides resistance to confusion, stunning, and 
   hallucination.  
k) The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak (-1) [+0,1d2] <+3>
   It improves your smithing by 3.  It provides resistance to 
   fire.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
l) a Pair of Greaves of Free Action [-1,1d3]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
m) 50 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 97 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 6 Yellow Herbs of Rage
b) 8 Pale Green Herbs of Sustenance
c) 3 Fragments of Lembas
d) 6 Clear Potions of Miruvor
e) 11 Cloudy Potions of Clarity
f) 8 Golden Potions of Healing
g) 5 Smoky Potions of True Sight
h) 12 Azure Potions of Slow Poison
i) 5 Brilliant Blue Potions of Quickness
j) 4 Vermilion Potions of Elemental Resistance
k) 8 Pale Green Potions of Strength
l) 7 Sparkling Potions of Dexterity
m) 6 Shimmering Potions of Constitution
n) an Aspen Staff of Sanctity (3 charges)
o) a Golden Staff of Understanding (used 1 time)
p) a Runed Staff of Revelations (5 charges)
q) a Silver Staff of Treasures (2 charges)
r) a Rosewood Staff of Foes (7 charges)
s) a Yew Staff of Majesty (3 charges)
t) a Mahogany Staff of Recharging (2 charges)
u) a Mattock (-4,5d3) <+2> 16.0 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 2.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  
v) 24 Arrows of Piercing
   They cut easily through armour.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).
w) 43 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Abilities]

Power
Charge
Momentum
Flaming Arrows
Dexterity
Parry
Crowd Fighting
Heavy Armour Use
Dexterity
Keen Senses
Lore-Keeper
Hardiness
Poison Resistance


  [Enemies]

  5 / 10  Wolf                                    
  4 /  8  Tanglethorn                             
 10 / 13  Orc                                     
  1 /  1  Grimhawk                                
  7 /  8  Orc scout                               
 10 / 10  Spider hatchling                        
 23 / 37  Orc soldier                             
  2 /  9  Madthorn                                
  1 /  1  Gorcrow                                 
  6 /  8  Orc archer                              
 22 / 22  White wolf                              
  4 /  4  Red serpent                             
  (slain) Gorgol, the Butcher 
 19 / 31  Orc warrior                             
  7 /  8  Sword spider                            
  6 /  6  Crebain                                 
  3 /  3  Mewlip                                  
  1 /  2  Orc thief                               
  5 /  5  Nightthorn                              
  4 /  4  Green serpent                           
 12 / 14  Mountain troll                          
 10 / 13  Orc champion                            
 23 / 23  Easterling warrior                      
 21 / 21  Hummerhorn                              
  2 /  4  Orc captain                             
 34 / 37  Warg                                    
  4 /  6  Grave wight                             
  5 /  5  Dark serpent                            
  (slain) Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs 
 14 / 26  Whispering shadow                       
 16 / 17  Distended spider                        
 14 / 16  Easterling archer                       
  3 /  3  Twisted bat                             
 12 / 15  Snow troll                              
  2 /  2  Lurking horror                          
  5 /  6  Giant                                   
  (slain) Uldor, the Accursed 
  6 / 10  Easterling spy                          
  4 /  6  Shadow bat                              
  4 /  8  Sulrauko                                
  3 /  4  Fire-drake hatchling                    
  (seen)  Ulfang the Black 
 34 / 49  Werewolf                                
  8 /  9  Shadow spider                           
  7 /  8  Shadow                                  
  4 /  4  Sapphire serpent                        
  7 / 10  Ruby serpent                            
  3 /  3  Creeping horror                         
 27 / 43  Ringrauko                               
  (slain) Nan, the Giant 
 21 / 23  Cave troll                              
  3 /  4  Emerald serpent                         
  6 /  7  Oathwraith                              
 57 / 82  Cat warrior                             
  9 / 11  Amethyst serpent                        
 10 / 44  Kemenrauko                              
  0 /  8  Grotesque                               
  1 /  2  Young cold-drake                        
  (slain) Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper 
  4 /  6  Spider of Gorgoroth                     
 16 / 23  Greater werewolf                        
  4 /  4  Adamant serpent                         
 12 / 16  Lesser vampire                          
  8 / 16  Cat assassin                            
  (slain) Scatha the Worm 
  (slain) Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo 
  2 /  2  Young fire-drake                        
  9 /  9  Darting horror                          
  5 / 10  Unmourned                               
 27 / 40  Ururauko                                
  (slain) Tevildo, Prince of Cats 
  (seen)  Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts 
  1 /  2  Ancient sapphire serpent                
 26 / 29  Troll guard                             
  7 / 14  Vampire                                 
  0 /  1  Ancient ruby serpent                    
  2 /  4  Gwathrauko                              
  (slain) Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame 
  0 /  1  Ancient emerald serpent                 
  (slain) Gostir, the Dread Glance 
  0 /  1  Ancient amethyst serpent                


  [Notes]

Brut of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 29 Oct 2016

   Turn     Depth   Note

      0     50 ft   (Power)
      0     50 ft   (Crowd Fighting)
  1,132    200 ft   Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
  1,154    200 ft   Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
  1,802    250 ft   Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
  2,920    300 ft   Found The Round Shield of Angrod
  3,761    350 ft   (Parry)
  4,581    350 ft   (Lore-Keeper)
  4,603    350 ft   Found The Longsword 'Aranruth'
  4,697    350 ft   Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  4,736    350 ft   Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  5,607    400 ft   (Flaming Arrows)
  7,983    500 ft   Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
  8,004    500 ft   Slew Uldor, the Accursed
  8,091    500 ft   Encountered Ulfang the Black
  8,647    550 ft   (Dexterity)
  8,954    550 ft   (Heavy Armour Use)
  9,497    600 ft   Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
  9,765    600 ft   (Keen Senses)
 11,033    650 ft   Encountered Nan, the Giant
 11,050    650 ft   Slew Nan, the Giant
 11,050    650 ft   Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
 11,136    650 ft   (Hardiness)
 11,371    700 ft   Found The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak
 11,601    700 ft   Found The Arrow 'Dailir'
 12,539    650 ft   Encountered Scatha the Worm
 14,517    750 ft   Fell through a crumbling stair
 14,712    750 ft   Encountered Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 14,717    750 ft   Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 14,808    750 ft   Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 14,811    750 ft   Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 14,823    750 ft   Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 14,846    750 ft   Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 15,450    800 ft   (Charge)
 15,450    800 ft   (Momentum)
 15,617    800 ft   Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 19,412    850 ft   Slew Scatha the Worm
 19,606    850 ft   (Poison Resistance)
 20,093    850 ft   Found The Glaive of the Sirion
 20,581    900 ft   Encountered Gostir, the Dread Glance
 20,599    900 ft   Slew Gostir, the Dread Glance
 23,424    900 ft   Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 23,465    900 ft   Destroyed Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 23,476    900 ft   (Dexterity)



  ['Score' 018076453]
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Old November 3, 2016, 13:25   #2
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Depends on whether the goal is killing V or not. I'd be wanting momentum or rapid attack to make the most of strength potions. You will probably want a little more will or another source of FA to counteract Morgoth's bad voice.
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Depends on whether the goal is killing V or not. I'd be wanting momentum or rapid attack to make the most of strength potions. You will probably want a little more will or another source of FA to counteract Morgoth's bad voice.
Thanks.
I got momentum along with charge with 3 STR and Orcrist (3lbs).
I will get more Will in order to get the CON point. So it'll be about 14 Will effectively.
What is FA?
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Old November 3, 2016, 16:09   #4
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FA is free action. I'm surprised you are using Orcrist. But, hey, if it's working it's working! There are many trolls at the start of the throne room, so that is something. I normally look for a good 3dx weapon if I'm weapon/shielding in endgame, but maybe your to-hit is high enough to get criticals to offset. I'm not so good with numbers, but just from experience, Orcrist always felt a bit like a butterknife once 600' hit.
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FA is free action. I'm surprised you are using Orcrist. But, hey, if it's working it's working! There are many trolls at the start of the throne room, so that is something. I normally look for a good 3dx weapon if I'm weapon/shielding in endgame, but maybe your to-hit is high enough to get criticals to offset. I'm not so good with numbers, but just from experience, Orcrist always felt a bit like a butterknife once 600' hit.
Thanks!

Free action, alright, i have that on my greaves.

yes, orcrist isnt great, but i'm crit-ing okish. It's weight fits my strength (3) optimally and i have finesse.

Any songs you'd recommend?
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Old November 3, 2016, 17:51   #6
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Slaying is, for my money, the most broken song. Slaying at merely bonus 12, or so, is ridiculous. It could just simply be a combination though... the throne room is flooded with monsters, so you can quickly ramp up a slaying bonus to insane heights.

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Old November 4, 2016, 00:18   #7
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i think that psi meant you should have two sources of free action. it provides resistance - but not immunity - to slowness and entrancement. a second one would give you enough for the throne room.
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i think that psi meant you should have two sources of free action. it provides resistance - but not immunity - to slowness and entrancement. a second one would give you enough for the throne room.
From memory I think you want the equivalent of 25 will, each FA source is +10 against the effect.
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Yep. Had 25 last time I killed him. It's not 100% but still pretty good
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I think 25 works until the crown is knocked off, at which point you need 28 for immunity.
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