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Old December 13, 2016, 04:07   #1
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Statistics: The abilities winners use in Sil 1.3.0

Data source: All winners of Sil 1.3.0 and Sil 1.3.0-mpa submitted to the Sil ladder as of this post (69 total dumps).

I used a simple python script to tally every line in every dump that looked like gaining an ability (including ones where there are commas in the ft or turn count, for example):

Code:
def countskills(directory):
	list = []
	for filename in os.listdir(directory):
		list.extend(printskills(directory + '\\' + filename))
	#
	counter = collections.Counter(list)
	return repr(counter)
#


def printskills(filename):
	result = []
	f = open(filename, 'r')
	for line in f:
		# example line:
		#  27,445  1,000 ft   (Lore-Keeper)
		match = re.match('\s+[\d,]+\s+[\d,]+\sft\s+\(([^)]+)\)', line)
		if match != None:
			result.append(match.group(1))
	return result
#
And here is a csv of the result:

Code:
Hardiness,58
Dexterity,55
Song of Slaying,53
Keen Senses,47
Constitution,40
Finesse,40
Power,39
Poison Resistance,37
Song of Sharpness,37
Crowd Fighting,34
Critical Resistance,34
Momentum,33
Follow-Through,32
Grace,32
Rauko-Bane,32
Sprinting,31
Opportunist,30
Jeweller,29
Leaping,27
Lore-Keeper,27
Dodging,26
Rapid Attack,25
Exchange Places,24
Heavy Armour Use,24
Weaponsmith,24
Flaming Arrows,24
Flanking,24
Lore-Master,23
Parry,23
Strength,23
Disguise,23
Woven Themes,22
Inner Light,22
Song of the Trees,22
Assassination,19
Precision,18
Riposte,17
Artifice,17
Concentration,16
Eye for Detail,16
Charge,16
Focused attack,15
Master Hunter,15
Zone of Control,14
Armoursmith,14
Listen,14
Clarity,14
Song of Silence,13
Enchantment,12
Blocking,12
Channeling,12
Two Weapon Fighting,11
Majesty,11
Song of Aule,11
Knock Back,10
Careful Shot,10
Vanish,10
Polearm Mastery,9
Controlled Retreat,9
Song of Elbereth,9
Song of Staying,8
Artistry,8
Subtlety,7
Curse Breaking,7
Mind Over Body,7
Wolf-Bane,6
Versatility,6
Song of Freedom,6
Rapid Fire,6
Cruel Blow,6
Crippling Shot,5
Point Blank Archery,4
Song of Lorien,4
Strength in Adversity,3
Dragon-Bane,3
Masterpiece,3
Serpent-Bane,2
Whirlwind Attack,2
Song of Este,1
Troll-Bane,1
Spider-Bane,1
Song of Mastery,1
Throwing Mastery,0
Notes:

1) The different ways you can gain 'Bane' are countered as separate entries. Rauko-Bane is super popular, the rest not so much.
2) I had to insert Throwing Mastery by hand because... NO WINNER took it. How about a buff in 1.4.0, huh?
3) The different 'Dexterity' etc abilities are all grouped together, which artificially inflates how popular they are.
4) Of course, the statistics are going to be influenced by things besides how good the abilities literally are, such as 'how many people are trying Morgoth killer builds vs how many people are just trying to win', whether people are taking what worked the last time for them vs experimenting to try and find a better build, doesn't take into account how useful the skill was for actually winning (vs being taken as vanity after the game was effectively won), and so on. Keep that in mind while drawing conclusions.
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Old December 13, 2016, 14:32   #2
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Nice. I'd be interested in the joint 1.2/1.3 stats as the mechanics are similar & I have a disproportionate no. of the 1.3 winning dumps (23 of 69 are mine). For instance a fair few of the artifice smiths are mine, same with heavy armour-use builds. I almost guarantee the channellers are mostly me & a lot of the eye for detail numbers.
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Old December 13, 2016, 15:03   #3
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I was surprised to see Song of Mastery at the bottom?
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Old December 13, 2016, 18:16   #4
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Thanks for this, this is really neat.

Wow, leaping 27! That is surprising to me.

How is it possible that concentration is 16, but focused attack is 15? I don't have access to the game at the moment, but I thought focused attack was the pre-requisite? Does your script collect abilities from armor? I recall there is an armor that gives concentration.
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Old December 13, 2016, 18:31   #5
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One of the artifact armours has Concentration solely...So that could be why
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Old December 13, 2016, 19:29   #6
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Nice. I'd be interested in the joint 1.2/1.3 stats as the mechanics are similar & I have a disproportionate no. of the 1.3 winning dumps (23 of 69 are mine). For instance a fair few of the artifice smiths are mine, same with heavy armour-use builds. I almost guarantee the channellers are mostly me & a lot of the eye for detail numbers.
Serpent-bane, troll-bane, wolf-bane, all yours I reckon. I really like channeling too, but only one win in the statistics.

Doubt artefact effects are listed in the statistic. It might be mpa changed ability dependencies.
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Old December 13, 2016, 23:37   #7
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You asked for it, and here it is. 208 combined 1.2.0, 1.2.1 and 1.3.0 (and -mpa thereof) winners took the following abilities:

Code:
Dexterity,169
Hardiness,167
Song of Slaying,154
Keen Senses,150
Constitution,137
Dodging,129
Finesse,118
Sprinting,112
Poison Resistance,111
Song of Sharpness,107
Lore-Keeper,99
Power,97
Flanking,97
Critical Resistance,91
Momentum,89
Grace,87
Lore-Master,84
Inner Light,79
Jeweller,77
Crowd Fighting,75
Follow-Through,71
Strength,71
Opportunist,68
Rapid Attack,67
Exchange Places,67
Rauko-Bane,64
Disguise,63
Weaponsmith,63
Heavy Armour Use,58
Charge,57
Armoursmith,55
Concentration,55
Song of the Trees,54
Zone of Control,52
Woven Themes,52
Artifice,52
Parry,51
Precision,51
Flaming Arrows,49
Assassination,49
Focused attack,45
Leaping,42
Enchantment,41
Two Weapon Fighting,40
Listen,38
Song of Aule,36
Riposte,33
Clarity,33
Careful Shot,31
Knock Back,29
Vanish,27
Majesty,27
Subtlety,26
Song of Elbereth,26
Eye for Detail,25
Master Hunter,25
Song of Freedom,22
Controlled Retreat,21
Artistry,21
Point Blank Archery,20
Song of Silence,20
Crippling Shot,19
Polearm Mastery,19
Blocking,19
Masterpiece,19
Rapid Fire,18
Channeling,14
Versatility,14
Curse Breaking,14
Cruel Blow,14
Wolf-Bane,12
Whirlwind Attack,12
Mind Over Body,12
Song of Lorien,10
Song of Mastery,9
Song of Staying,8
Dragon-Bane,5
Song of Este,4
Serpent-Bane,3
Strength in Adversity,3
Unwavering Voice,2
Orc-Bane,2
Troll-Bane,1
Spider-Bane,1
Throwing Mastery,0
Still no Throwing Mastery takers. LOL. Though I noticed that there's artifact gloves that give Throwing Mastery and 3 people were wearing them.

Song of Master now up to 9, that's more like it. I guess it went out of fashion in 1.3.0?

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One of the artifact armours has Concentration solely...So that could be why
I don't think my script collects abilities from equipment. You can look at it in the first post - it looks only for lines that look like gaining an ability on a certain level/turn.
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I don't think my script collects abilities from equipment. You can look at it in the first post - it looks only for lines that look like gaining an ability on a certain level/turn.
Focus is the only pre-req for concentration so at a guess it's picking up a few user made notes?
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So on the face of it, Slaying and Sharpness seem to dominate the other Songs a bit more than they perhaps should?

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So on the face of it, Slaying and Sharpness seem to dominate the other Songs a bit more than they perhaps should?

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Perhaps. It's pretty hard to eliminate (& whether you should is questionable) a solid proven strategy. Finesse, high melee/evasion, rauko-bane, slaying/sharpness, buff & herb of rage, kill 'em all.
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