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Old November 16, 2017, 11:12   #71
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Got this uploading my character dump:

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error: unknown variant! Name Nelvatyn Age 1,292 Str 2 = 0 +2
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error: unknown variant! Sex Male Height 6'1 Dex 5 = 4 +1
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error: unknown variant! Race Sindar Weight 170 Con 7 = 4 +3
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error: unknown variant! House Doriath Gra 6 = 4 +2
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error: unknown variant! Game Turn 8,975 Melee (+6,1d4) Melee 6 = 1 +5
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error: unknown variant! Exp Pool 649 Bows (+6,0d0) Archery 6 = 0 +5 +1
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error: unknown variant! Total Exp 43,949 Armor [+12,3-7] Evasion 12 = 5 +5 +2
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error: unknown variant! Burden 66.1 Stealth 13 = 10 +5 -2
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error: unknown variant! Max Burden 144.0 Health -9:71 Perception 16 = 10 +6
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error: unknown variant! Depth 1000' Voice 27:59 Will 9 = 3 +6
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error: unknown variant! Min Depth 1000' Song Lorien Smithing 6 = 0 +6
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error: unknown variant! Light Radius 2 Silence Song 23 = 16 +6 +1
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error: unknown variant! You are one of two children of a Sindar bard. You have light grey
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error: unknown variant! eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.
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Not sure what you changed to the crown requirements, as I had 3 str+power & one of the black blades wielded 2-handed & still couldn't break it. Also not so sure about being able to smash the blade on the 1st sil, this kinda means sneakers have to muck around with moving the crown or moving Morgoth to be viable.

Oh, character dump here:
http://angband.live/wobbly/silq/Nelvatyn.txt
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Old November 16, 2017, 13:08   #72
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Originally Posted by wobbly View Post
Got this uploading my character dump:

Code:
reading chardump, please wait...
error: unknown variant! Name Nelvatyn Age 1,292 Str 2 = 0 +2
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Sex Male Height 6'1 Dex 5 = 4 +1
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Race Sindar Weight 170 Con 7 = 4 +3
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! House Doriath Gra 6 = 4 +2
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Game Turn 8,975 Melee (+6,1d4) Melee 6 = 1 +5
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Exp Pool 649 Bows (+6,0d0) Archery 6 = 0 +5 +1
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Total Exp 43,949 Armor [+12,3-7] Evasion 12 = 5 +5 +2
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Burden 66.1 Stealth 13 = 10 +5 -2
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Max Burden 144.0 Health -9:71 Perception 16 = 10 +6
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Depth 1000' Voice 27:59 Will 9 = 3 +6
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Min Depth 1000' Song Lorien Smithing 6 = 0 +6
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! Light Radius 2 Silence Song 23 = 16 +6 +1
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! You are one of two children of a Sindar bard. You have light grey
webmaster was notified
error: unknown variant! eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.
webmaster was notified
Not sure what you changed to the crown requirements, as I had 3 str+power & one of the black blades wielded 2-handed & still couldn't break it. Also not so sure about being able to smash the blade on the 1st sil, this kinda means sneakers have to muck around with moving the crown or moving Morgoth to be viable.

Oh, character dump here:
http://angband.live/wobbly/silq/Nelvatyn.txt
Think the upload issue was angband.live not supporting the variant fully yet.

Something like 3d9 with sharpness should be enough to break off a Sil but will require a little luck if you're not rolling crits - might take a while. I hadn't considered pacifists angering Morgoth on the first Sil; will patch that for the next release.

Three prerequisite possibilities is a bit unwieldy; maybe should drop the prereq altogether?
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Old November 17, 2017, 22:31   #73
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I think that getting a powerful boost against fleeing enemies is fine, but it's too cheap to acquire for elves.
Hmm. How would you feel about keeping it as the bottom of the skill tree but making it +3?
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Old November 18, 2017, 09:50   #74
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Think the upload issue was angband.live not supporting the variant fully yet.

Something like 3d9 with sharpness should be enough to break off a Sil but will require a little luck if you're not rolling crits - might take a while. I hadn't considered pacifists angering Morgoth on the first Sil; will patch that for the next release.

Three prerequisite possibilities is a bit unwieldy; maybe should drop the prereq altogether?
Yeah just drop the prereqs maybe. It looks like a very niche ability anyway, I don't think you want to enforce it to a strict build when it's likely to be a rare pick anyway.
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