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Old October 14, 2021, 18:02   #71
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As Selkie said, the first Druid dungeon book is found on DL 30, so it will be rare at lower levels.
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Old October 14, 2021, 18:05   #72
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What Selkie said: the first druid dungeon book is native to DL30, so will be rare earlier. lib/gamedata/class.txt has book info for all classes:
https://github.com/angband/angband/b...data/class.txt
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Old November 2, 2021, 14:36   #73
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OK, another dumb question: what, exactly, are the effects of stunning?
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Old November 2, 2021, 15:30   #74
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Makes you helpless. In a monster, it makes him helpless.
Your accuracy and damage go down, and spell rate fail goes up.
For the monster, accuracy and damage go down, and their speed is reduced by 1/10.
It is critical for the blackguard class to stun his enemy, and force him to fight via aggravation.

Also, there are only 3 levels for stunning: stun, heavy stun, and knocked out. The last is invariably unsurvivable. A grand master mystic can knock out a normal speed player in a single turn, with a bit of bad luck.
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Old November 3, 2021, 01:41   #75
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Also, there are only 3 levels for stunning: stun, heavy stun, and knocked out. The last is invariably unsurvivable.
I in fact survived once being knocked out by a Master Mystic (not grand) . After i was knocked out, he made the mistake to summon a large group of phase spiders. They had fun phasing me around the room. After what must have been hundreds of -more- keystrokes, i woke up.
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I in fact survived once being knocked out by a Master Mystic (not grand) . After i was knocked out, he made the mistake to summon a large group of phase spiders. They had fun phasing me around the room. After what must have been hundreds of -more- keystrokes, i woke up.
That is awesome.

Another possibility is reading a recall scroll before being knocked out...

But that wasn't me. I just died slowly watching myself get nibbled to death.
Just stay away from mystics unless you've got resist stun... (expecially the grandmasters
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Old November 3, 2021, 02:13   #77
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I in fact survived once being knocked out by a Master Mystic (not grand) . After i was knocked out, he made the mistake to summon a large group of phase spiders. They had fun phasing me around the room. After what must have been hundreds of -more- keystrokes, i woke up.
Why do you assume it was a mistake? He probably had fun watching you get phased around the room.
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Makes you helpless. In a monster, it makes him helpless.
Your accuracy and damage go down, and spell rate fail goes up.
For the monster, accuracy and damage go down, and their speed is reduced by 1/10.
It is critical for the blackguard class to stun his enemy, and force him to fight via aggravation.

Also, there are only 3 levels for stunning: stun, heavy stun, and knocked out. The last is invariably unsurvivable. A grand master mystic can knock out a normal speed player in a single turn, with a bit of bad luck.
This is why I prefer crowns of serenity to most non-artifact headgear and many artifacts as well, and I *love* the crown of Gondor...

So many monsters can stun you: anything that breathes plasma, sound attacks, mystics and titans...
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This is why I prefer crowns of serenity to most non-artifact headgear and many artifacts as well, and I *love* the crown of Gondor...

So many monsters can stun you: anything that breathes plasma, sound attacks, mystics and titans...
Playing as a blackguard made me realise just how powerful stunning monsters can be. Before I'd always discarded wands of stunning as a bit junky. Now my early characters always carry them. Especially against orc uniques it can be powerful at tipping the tide in your balance
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I managed to melee a horned reaper once as a mage, with the original spell set. Just used Ice storm, rune, and a MoD of Gondolin.
And yes, those wands of stunning are excellent.
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