Iron Man

Mantis · September 18, 2018, 08:00

Hello everyone.

After much effort I managed to nab a Sil with a Feanor & a Finarfin- playing on the Android 1.3 build. However I found nipping between 900 & 950 a little immersion breaking and decided to try the straight down challenge option. It's quite tough, my best effort perished around 750 when I was too reluctant to escape the level - you need every point of XP you can get or you're soon overmatched! Anyone have any advice on the best sort of build for this kind of challenge?

wobbly · September 18, 2018, 11:31

My only ironman win was a christmas start with Dramborleg. It's hard to do without leaping which makes some kind of sprinting archer a natural choice.

Mantis · September 19, 2018, 12:37

Thanks, my previous winners were stabbers so an archer might be the way to go. Alternatively I might try reducing the turncount if having to take Leaping proves too restrictive & repetitive. It saves your bacon now & again though!

wobbly · September 21, 2018, 12:02

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=21949

3 Sils, ironman. Got him down to 3, tried Calris, my vampric & Angrist. Think I would of made the kill if I tried Angrist earlier. Very tight in the endgame, I was pretty lucky with drops though I never found the damage ring I wanted.

Mantis · September 21, 2018, 13:19

Congrats, very interesting choices! You went with a non-leaping stabber it seems

: I just had a YASD at 750 with a decent archer after leaping somewhere, discovering that the corridor configuration didn't permit leaping back, and then getting a multiple critical decapitation by Tevildo's Guard on a misclick. Maybe leaping isn't worth it after all!

wobbly · September 21, 2018, 13:33

I held back the xp for leaping till I was pretty sure I could just risk it. The problem is a chasm cutting the level in half can lose you 2 levels. I'm actually using the shield in my pack for most of the game which left me a little noisy for pure stabbing. Usually I used the bow rather then risking getting to stabbing range.

Mantis · September 22, 2018, 03:20

Well you seem to have gotten enough XP anyway, I guess Iron Man costs the player chances to find more consumables & items rather than XP. Incidentally, do Iron Man rules apply on the ascent too? Though I suppose crumbling stairs can still happen...

wobbly · September 22, 2018, 17:44

Yeah you wont be short the xp if you murder everything. I had danger on my gear for the 2nd half of the descent, not sure how much extra it netted me. It's still a bit tight if you want the kill, just because without a perfect gear set you'll want to be a bit more optimized in your build. I could of done with extra melee/evasion, though even with my odd build I had enough, just didn't get the fight quite right.

Not sure about the ascent, I never tried to go down. There's always chasms though, so going down is not going to be a problem.

September 18, 2018, 08:00	#1
Mantis Rookie Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 13	Iron Man Hello everyone. After much effort I managed to nab a Sil with a Feanor & a Finarfin- playing on the Android 1.3 build. However I found nipping between 900 & 950 a little immersion breaking and decided to try the straight down challenge option. It's quite tough, my best effort perished around 750 when I was too reluctant to escape the level - you need every point of XP you can get or you're soon overmatched! Anyone have any advice on the best sort of build for this kind of challenge?

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September 18, 2018, 11:31	#2
wobbly Prophet Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,596	My only ironman win was a christmas start with Dramborleg. It's hard to do without leaping which makes some kind of sprinting archer a natural choice.

September 19, 2018, 12:37	#3
Mantis Rookie Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 13	Thanks, my previous winners were stabbers so an archer might be the way to go. Alternatively I might try reducing the turncount if having to take Leaping proves too restrictive & repetitive. It saves your bacon now & again though!

September 21, 2018, 12:02	#4
wobbly Prophet Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,596	http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=21949 3 Sils, ironman. Got him down to 3, tried Calris, my vampric & Angrist. Think I would of made the kill if I tried Angrist earlier. Very tight in the endgame, I was pretty lucky with drops though I never found the damage ring I wanted.

September 21, 2018, 13:19	#5
Mantis Rookie Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 13	Congrats, very interesting choices! You went with a non-leaping stabber it seems : I just had a YASD at 750 with a decent archer after leaping somewhere, discovering that the corridor configuration didn't permit leaping back, and then getting a multiple critical decapitation by Tevildo's Guard on a misclick. Maybe leaping isn't worth it after all!

September 21, 2018, 13:33	#6
wobbly Prophet Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,596	I held back the xp for leaping till I was pretty sure I could just risk it. The problem is a chasm cutting the level in half can lose you 2 levels. I'm actually using the shield in my pack for most of the game which left me a little noisy for pure stabbing. Usually I used the bow rather then risking getting to stabbing range.

September 22, 2018, 03:20	#7
Mantis Rookie Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 13	Well you seem to have gotten enough XP anyway, I guess Iron Man costs the player chances to find more consumables & items rather than XP. Incidentally, do Iron Man rules apply on the ascent too? Though I suppose crumbling stairs can still happen...

September 22, 2018, 17:44	#8
wobbly Prophet Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,596	Yeah you wont be short the xp if you murder everything. I had danger on my gear for the 2nd half of the descent, not sure how much extra it netted me. It's still a bit tight if you want the kill, just because without a perfect gear set you'll want to be a bit more optimized in your build. I could of done with extra melee/evasion, though even with my odd build I had enough, just didn't get the fight quite right. Not sure about the ascent, I never tried to go down. There's always chasms though, so going down is not going to be a problem.

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