an idea for Morgul blades

wobbly · March 15, 2020, 11:45

What if these didn't always have Ag? What if they were guaranteed a bunch of random curses from the new curse system?

archolewa · March 23, 2020, 20:53

Actually, with the changes being discussed for Blackguards: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=9901, Morgul blades as is may actually prove to be powerful early to midgame weapons for blackguards instead of the bait and switches they are now.

So we might want to see how that shakes out before making changes to Morgul blades.

Also, I worry that Morgul blades would lose some of their flavoring if they had random curses, as opposed to always Ag.

DavidMedley · March 23, 2020, 21:27

One of the reasons I though it was exciting to give BGs permanent aggravation is that, assuming they're reasonably balanced against that flaw, there are 15 artifacts with aggravate that suddenly are very viable!

With the artifacts you can unequip them when you need to. But if you give a class permanent aggravation, it's a whole other ball of wax.

Grotug · March 23, 2020, 23:21

Plus there are those (+8, +11) <+2> Caestus of Combat I always find but never use.

Sky · March 26, 2020, 06:21

maybe aggravation as a whole could be reworked to have both a range and an effect power. Kinda like stealth.

wobbly · March 26, 2020, 07:52

Has anyone ever tried toning Ag down? If you made it the equivalent of 2 failed stealth checks (on top of the normal stealth check) things would presumably still wake up fast.

March 15, 2020, 11:45	#1
wobbly Veteran Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,435	an idea for Morgul blades What if these didn't always have Ag? What if they were guaranteed a bunch of random curses from the new curse system?

March 23, 2020, 23:21	#4
Grotug Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,411	Plus there are those (+8, +11) <+2> Caestus of Combat I always find but never use. __________________ Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

March 26, 2020, 06:21	#5
Sky Veteran Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: London-ish Age: 48 Posts: 1,879	maybe aggravation as a whole could be reworked to have both a range and an effect power. Kinda like stealth. __________________ "i can take this dracolich"

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March 23, 2020, 20:53	#2
archolewa Swordsman Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Midwest Age: 32 Posts: 264	Actually, with the changes being discussed for Blackguards: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=9901, Morgul blades as is may actually prove to be powerful early to midgame weapons for blackguards instead of the bait and switches they are now. So we might want to see how that shakes out before making changes to Morgul blades. Also, I worry that Morgul blades would lose some of their flavoring if they had random curses, as opposed to always Ag.

March 23, 2020, 21:27	#3
DavidMedley Knight Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 941	One of the reasons I though it was exciting to give BGs permanent aggravation is that, assuming they're reasonably balanced against that flaw, there are 15 artifacts with aggravate that suddenly are very viable! With the artifacts you can unequip them when you need to. But if you give a class permanent aggravation, it's a whole other ball of wax.

March 26, 2020, 07:52	#6
wobbly Veteran Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,435	Has anyone ever tried toning Ag down? If you made it the equivalent of 2 failed stealth checks (on top of the normal stealth check) things would presumably still wake up fast.

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