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Apprentice
Join Date: May 2017
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What to expect?
Death is a normal part of roguelikes, and I fully expect my character to die before he can defeat Morgoth. But, I would like to get as far as possible.
Currently my HE mage is CL 48, his speed before potions is +18, and he has reached a max depth of Level 70. He's got all the possible resistances except nexus sound chaos blindness stunning and hasn't had too many close calls. The closest he came to dying was when he took several nether (which he is resistant to), nexus, and/or chaos breaths in one turn. He can easily kill many monsters worth 50000 XP, but a group of time hounds almost did him in. Brought him down to 140 HP in a couple turns. Any monster that tends to be solitary, as long as it can be slowed and can't one-shot him, is manageable. My question is, what type of monster or attack is most likely to kill him at this point, past DL 70? Edit: He now has resistance to chaos and sound Last edited by PopTart; February 9, 2020 at 23:57. |
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Apprentice
Join Date: May 2017
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[Angband 4.2.0 Character Dump] Name Zappy Age 117 Self RB CB EB Best Race High-Elf Height 6'1" STR! 18/100 +1 -3 +3 18/110 Class Mage Weight 14st 0lb INT! 18/100 +3 +3 +4 18/200 Title Arch-Mage Turns used: WIS! 18/100 -1 +0 +0 18/90 HP 599/791 Game 961546 DEX: 18/88 +3 +0 +9 18/208 SP 295/371 Standard 183213 CON! 18/100 +1 -2 +10 18/190 Resting 65548 Level 48 Armor [80,+122] Saving Throw 99% Cur Exp 5605090 Stealth Superb Max Exp 5605090 Melee 1d7,+26 Disarm - phys. 100% Adv Exp 5800000 To-hit 39,+39 Disarm - magic 100% Blows 4.0/turn Magic Devices 129 Gold 629756 Searching 92% Burden 173.1 lb Shoot to-dam +19 Infravision 40 ft Overweight -6.8 lb To-hit 39,+38 Speed 15 (2.5x) Max Depth 3600' (L72) Shots 1.0/turn You are one of several children of a Noldorin Warrior. You have light blue eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion. Resistances Abilities Acid:......+.++... pFear:.......+..... Elec:......+.+.... pBlnd:............. Fire:....+.+.++... pConf:......+....+. Cold:......+.+.... pStun:............. Pois:......+...... HLife:.....+....... Light:.....++...+.+ Regen:............. Dark:.....++...... ESP:............. Sound:......+...... S.Inv:+....+......+ Shard:......+..+... FrAct:+.........++. Nexus:............. Feath:............. Nethr:...........+. S.Dig:............. Chaos:......+...... TrpIm:............. Disen:......+.++... Bless:............. Hindrances Modifiers ImpHP:............. Stea.:.......++.... ImpSP:............. Sear.:.........+... Fear:............. Infra:............+ Aggrv:............. Tunn.:............. NoTel:............. Speed:..+....+...+. DrExp:............. Blows:............. Stick:............. Shots:............. Fragl:........+.... Might:.+........... Light:.....+....+.. D.Red:............. Moves:............. [Character Equipment] a) a Short Sword of Westernesse (1d7) (+13,+14) <+2> Bought from a store +2 strength. +2 dexterity. +2 constitution. Slays giants, trolls, orcs. Grants the ability to see invisible things. Prevents paralysis. Combat info: 4.0 blows/round. Average damage/round: 160.8 vs. giants, 160.8 vs. trolls, 160.8 vs. orcs, and 126.4 vs. others. b) a Light Crossbow of Extra Might (x4) (+12,+19) <+1> Dropped by a barbazu at 2850 feet (level 57) +1 shooting power. c) a Ring of Speed <+12> Dropped by Azog, Enemy of the Dwarves at 1200 feet (level 24) +12 speed. d) a Ring of Constitution <+5> +5 constitution. Sustains constitution. e) the Amulet of Carlammas <+1, +3> Dropped by a gorgon at 2850 feet (level 57) +1 strength. +3 constitution. Provides resistance to fire. When activated, it grants you protection from evil for 1d25 plus 3 times your character level turns. Takes 565 to 1125 turns to recharge at your current speed. Your chance of success is 96.4% f) the Arkenstone of Thráin <+3> Dropped by Bert the Stone Troll at 2650 feet (level 53) +3 light. Provides resistance to light, dark. Cannot be harmed by fire. Grants the ability to see invisible things. Sustains your life force. Intensity 3 light. When activated, it lights and maps the entire level, sensing objects. Takes 127 to 250 turns to recharge at your current speed. Your chance of success is 96.4% g) Power Dragon Scale Mail of Craftsmanship [60,+35] Dropped by Ungoliant, the Unlight at 3500 feet (level 70) Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison, light, dark, sound, shards, chaos, disenchantment. Provides protection from confusion. h) an Elven Cloak of the Magi [6,+13] <+2, +3, +1> Dropped by a mature white dragon at 2500 feet (level 50) +2 intelligence. +3 stealth. +1 speed. Provides protection from fear. Cannot be harmed by acid. Sustains intelligence. i) a Leather Shield of Elvenkind [8,+16] <+2> Found lying on the floor at 1650 feet (level 33) +2 stealth. Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, disenchantment. Cannot be harmed by acid. Can be destroyed if you attempt to remove its curses. j) the Metal Cap of Celebrimbor [3,+18] <+2, +3> Dropped by Castamir the Usurper at 2500 feet (level 50) +2 intelligence. +2 dexterity. +3 searching skill. Provides resistance to acid, fire, shards, disenchantment. Cannot be harmed by acid. k) the Set of Leather Gloves 'Cammithrim' (+5,+5) [1,+10] <+1> Dropped by a young black dragon at 2100 feet (level 42) +1 light. Provides resistance to light. Cannot be harmed by acid, fire. Sustains constitution. Prevents paralysis. When activated, it fires a magic missile with damage 3d4. Takes 5 turns to recharge at your current speed. Your chance of success is 99.0% l) the Pair of Leather Boots 'Dal-i-thalion' [2,+15] <+5> Dropped by Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir at 2850 feet (level 57) +5 dexterity. +5 speed. Provides resistance to nether. Provides protection from confusion. Cannot be harmed by acid, fire. Sustains constitution. Prevents paralysis. When activated, it cures you of fear and poison. Takes 12 turns to recharge at your current speed. Your chance of success is 99.0% [Character Inventory] a) 2 Books of Magic Spells [First Spells] {@m1!k} You can read this book. b) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Attacks and Knowledge] {@m2!k} You can read this book. c) 3 Books of Magic Spells [Magical Defences] {@m3} You can read this book. d) 3 Books of Magic Spells [Arcane Control] {@m4} Cannot be harmed by fire. You can read this book. e) 17 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds f) 5 Potions of Restore Mana g) 7 Potions of Enlightenment h) 6 Potions of Resist Poison i) 6 Potions of Dragon Breath j) 3 Scrolls of Banishment k) 4 Rods of Recall Cannot be harmed by lightning. l) 3 Wands of Slow Monster (42 charges) m) 2 Wands of Hold Monster (60 charges) n) 2 Wands of Stone to Mud (45 charges) {@a1} o) 3 Wands of Dragon's Flame (32 charges) Cannot be harmed by lightning. p) 3 Wands of Annihilation (16 charges) Cannot be harmed by lightning. q) 3 Staves of Teleportation (36 charges) r) 3 Staves of Speed (41 charges) [Character Quiver] 0) 5 Seeker Bolts of Slay Demon (4d5) (+9,+13) Slays demons. Combat info: Hits targets up to 140 feet away. Average damage/round: 320.3 vs. demons, and 183 vs. others. 25% chance of breaking upon contact. 1) 17 Seeker Bolts of Frost (4d5) (+15,+14) Branded with cold. Combat info: Hits targets up to 140 feet away. Average damage/round: 330.7 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, and 189 vs. others. 25% chance of breaking upon contact. 2) 7 Seeker Bolts of Wounding (4d5) (+20,+16) Combat info: Hits targets up to 140 feet away. Average damage/round: 197.4. 25% chance of breaking upon contact. 3) 11 Seeker Bolts of Slay Evil (4d5) (+12,+15) Slays evil creatures. Combat info: Hits targets up to 140 feet away. Average damage/round: 289.8 vs. evil creatures, and 193.2 vs. others. 25% chance of breaking upon contact. [Home Inventory] a) 11 Books of Magic Spells [Arcane Control] {@m4} Cannot be harmed by fire. You can read this book. b) 9 Mushrooms of Vigor c) 37 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds d) 10 Potions of Healing e) 9 Potions of *Healing* It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect. f) a Potion of Life It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect. g) 18 Potions of Restore Mana h) 3 Potions of Restore Life Levels i) a Potion of Speed j) 23 Potions of Resist Poison k) 2 Scrolls of *Remove Curse* l) 3 Wands of Slow Monster (29 charges) m) 11 Wands of Hold Monster (114 charges) n) 4 Wands of Stone to Mud (67 charges) {@a1} o) 4 Wands of Dragon's Flame (23 charges) Cannot be harmed by lightning. p) 9 Staves of Teleportation (110 charges) q) a Staff of Speed (17 charges) r) a Ring of Constitution <+5> +5 constitution. Sustains constitution. s) an Amulet of ESP Bought from a store Grants telepathy. t) the Jewel 'Evenstar' <+2> Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2850 feet (level 57) +2 wisdom. Provides resistance to cold, dark, nether. Sustains wisdom, constitution. Speeds regeneration. Sustains your life force. When activated, it restores your experience to full. Takes 375 turns to recharge at your current speed. Your chance of success is 97.2% u) Blue Dragon Scale Mail (Dwarven) (-2) [12,+32] <+2, +5> Dropped by a Maia of Mandos at 2450 feet (level 49) +2 strength. +2 constitution. +5 infravision. Provides resistance to lightning. Prevents paralysis. v) a Pair of Iron Shod Boots of Speed [4,+6] <+10> Dropped by Fundin Bluecloak at 2850 feet (level 57) +10 speed. Cannot be harmed by fire. w) the Short Sword 'Dagmor' (1d7) (+13,+12) <+2> Dropped by Beorn, the Shape-Changer at 2750 feet (level 55) +2 attack speed. Slays animals. Branded with poison. Cannot be harmed by acid. Slows your metabolism. Speeds regeneration. Combat info: 6.0 blows/round. Average damage/round: 216 vs. creatures not resistant to poison, 190.2 vs. animals, and 164.4 vs. others. x) a Broad Axe of Westernesse (2d6) (+14,+15) <+2, +1> Dropped by a patriarch at 2850 feet (level 57) +2 strength. +1 dexterity. +2 constitution. Slays giants, trolls, orcs. Grants the ability to see invisible things. Prevents paralysis. Combat info: 4.0 blows/round. Average damage/round: 208.4 vs. giants, 208.4 vs. trolls, 208.4 vs. orcs, and 146.4 vs. others. [Player history] Turn Depth Note 0 0' Began the quest to destroy Morgoth. 496 50' Reached level 2 2206 50' Reached level 3 2623 50' Reached level 4 4270 50' Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's Dog 4270 50' Reached level 5 5513 100' Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's Dog 5536 100' Reached level 6 6687 150' Reached level 7 9227 200' Reached level 8 10168 250' Reached level 9 11897 300' Reached level 10 13667 550' Reached level 11 15568 200' Reached level 12 16988 200' Killed Sméagol 21293 350' Reached level 13 22512 800' Reached level 14 23402 850' Reached level 15 23738 850' Killed Nár, the Dwarf 24175 850' Reached level 16 24305 850' Reached level 17 24447 850' Reached level 18 24597 850' Reached level 19 25370 850' Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman 25372 850' Found the Cloak of Thingol 25851 850' Reached level 20 27559 1100' Reached level 21 29408 1200' Reached level 22 30583 1200' Killed Bullroarer the Hobbit 30607 1200' Killed Grishnákh, the Hill Orc 30607 1200' Reached level 23 30611 1200' Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief 31811 1200' Killed Azog, Enemy of the Dwarves 32132 1200' Reached level 24 32738 1200' Killed Uglúk, the Uruk 33207 1200' Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol 34516 1200' Killed Old Man Willow 34516 1200' Reached level 25 36898 1250' Killed Sangahyando of Umbar 38565 1300' Reached level 26 39002 1300' Killed Khîm, Son of Mîm 39836 1300' Killed Angamaitë of Umbar 43662 1350' Killed Bolg, Son of Azog 44897 1350' Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain 46045 1600' Reached level 27 49287 1600' Reached level 28 50076 1600' Found the Dagger 'Nimthanc' (LOST) 52811 1650' Reached level 29 52827 1650' Killed Ibun, Son of Mîm 56087 1700' Killed Uldor the Accursed 57777 1750' Reached level 30 58403 1750' Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang 58411 1750' Killed Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang 59198 1750' Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord 60360 1800' Reached level 31 62112 1850' Found the Lochaber Axe 'Mundwine' (LOST) 64690 1900' Reached level 32 64690 1900' Reached level 33 65621 1900' Killed Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings 65652 1900' Found the Phial of Galadriel (LOST) 68341 1950' Killed Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain 69944 1950' Reached level 34 70630 2000' Reached level 34 76774 2000' Found the Star of Elendil (LOST) 77101 2000' Reached level 35 78471 2050' Killed Kavlax the Many-Headed 80290 2050' Found the Leather Shield of Celegorm (LOST) 82312 2100' Found the Set of Leather Gloves 'Cammithrim' 83047 2100' Killed Rogrog the Black Troll 83691 2150' Reached level 36 88267 2300' Killed Ariel, Queen of Air 90441 2350' Killed Harowen the Black Hand 90441 2350' Reached level 37 91896 2400' Killed The Queen Ant 97232 2500' Killed Quaker, Master of Earth 97594 2500' Reached level 38 101327 2500' Killed Castamir the Usurper 101332 2500' Found the Metal Cap of Celebrimbor 101708 2500' Killed Eöl, the Dark Elf 102889 2500' Reached level 39 104067 2500' Found the Set of Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' (LOST) 108264 2500' Killed Itangast the Fire Drake 108270 2500' Found the Cloak 'Colannon' (LOST) 108638 2500' Killed Vargo, Tyrant of Fire 109021 2500' Reached level 40 110467 2600' Found the Set of Gauntlets 'Paurnen' (LOST) 110673 2600' Killed Waldern, King of Water 111067 2600' Found the Glaive of Pain (LOST) 113077 2650' Killed Tom the Stone Troll 113077 2650' Found the Iron Helm of Gorlim (LOST) 113096 2650' Killed Bert the Stone Troll 113153 2650' Found the Arkenstone of Thráin 113165 2650' Killed Bill the Stone Troll 115346 2750' Killed Beorn, the Shape-Changer 115350 2750' Found the Short Sword 'Dagmor' 116713 2750' Reached level 41 116979 2750' Killed Ar-Pharazôn the Golden 119605 2750' Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain 121615 2800' Found the Mace 'Taratol' (LOST) 122042 2800' Reached level 42 122889 2850' Killed Saruman of Many Colours 123521 2850' Killed Mîm, Betrayer of Turin 124037 2850' Killed Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir 124049 2850' Found the Pair of Leather Boots 'Dal-i-thalion' 126619 2850' Killed The Phoenix 126827 2850' Found the Jewel 'Evenstar' 127624 2850' Reached level 43 127853 2850' Killed Gilim, the Giant of Eruman 128992 2850' Killed Fundin Bluecloak 131085 2850' Killed Scatha the Worm 131087 2850' Found the Iron Helm 'Holhenneth' (LOST) 131237 2850' Killed The Balrog of Moria 132851 2850' Reached level 44 136828 2850' Found the Amulet of Carlammas 137016 2850' Killed Orfax, Son of Boldor 139174 2900' Reached level 45 139751 2900' Killed Shelob, Spider of Darkness 146072 3000' Found the Cloak of Thorongil (LOST) 146804 3050' Found the Spear 'Nimloth' (LOST) 148134 3100' Reached level 46 151040 3150' Killed Baphomet the Minotaur Lord 152207 3150' Killed Smaug the Golden 156783 3200' Killed The Mouth of Sauron 156823 3200' Found the Metal Cap of Thengel (LOST) 159384 0' Reached level 47 171824 3400' Reached level 48 173604 0' Reached level 48 175765 0' Reached level 48 181773 3500' Found the Quarterstaff 'Eriril' (LOST) 182662 3500' Killed Ungoliant, the Unlight [Options] [User interface] Use the roguelike command keyset : no (rogue_like_commands) Use sound : yes (use_sound) Show damage player deals to monsters : no (show_damage) Use old target by default : no (use_old_target) Always pickup items : no (pickup_always) Always pickup items matching inventory : yes (pickup_inven) Show flavors in object descriptions : no (show_flavors) Highlight target with cursor : yes (show_target) Highlight player with cursor between turns : no (highlight_player) Disturb whenever viewable monster moves : yes (disturb_near) Show walls as solid blocks : no (solid_walls) Show walls with shaded background : yes (hybrid_walls) Color: Illuminate torchlight in yellow : no (view_yellow_light) Color: Shimmer multi-colored things : no (animate_flicker) Center map continuously : no (center_player) Color: Show unique monsters in purple : no (purple_uniques) Automatically clear '-more-' prompts : no (auto_more) Color: Player color indicates % hit points : yes (hp_changes_color) Allow mouse clicks to move the player : yes (mouse_movement) Notify on object recharge : no (notify_recharge) Show effective speed as multiplier : no (effective_speed) [Birth] Generate a new, random artifact set : no (birth_randarts) Generate connected stairs : yes (birth_connect_stairs) Force player descent (never make up stairs) : no (birth_force_descend) Word of Recall has no effect : no (birth_no_recall) Restrict creation of artifacts : no (birth_no_artifacts) Stack objects on the floor : yes (birth_stacking) Lose artifacts when leaving level : no (birth_lose_arts) Show level feelings : yes (birth_feelings) Increase gold drops but disable selling : yes (birth_no_selling) Start with a kit of useful gear : yes (birth_start_kit) Monsters learn from their mistakes : no (birth_ai_learn) Know all runes on birth : no (birth_know_runes) Know all flavors on birth : no (birth_know_flavors) Persistent levels (experimental) : no (birth_levels_persist) To-damage is a percentage of dice (experimental): no (birth_percent_damage) Last edited by PopTart; February 9, 2020 at 23:55. |
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Prophet
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
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You're near endgame strong. A bit more speed, and maybe a point of CON from somewhere. You might carry a couple potions of healing for emergencies.
Even at CL 50, 18/220 INT mass banishment has 3% fail rate. You might hang on to a few scrolls for the last fight, just in case. And you'll want a few more !speed for the bosses. Additionally, INT 18/220 (with fast casting) turns mana storm into an impossibly strong attack, at near 700 damage per full turn. You won't use any other attacks; not even Annihilation. There are a few big breathers and summoners deep. (Tarrasque is notorious as a breather.) But you shouldn't have a problem so long as you maintain double resist and 500+ HP. |
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Swordsman
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Finland
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Biggest dangers for character this strong are:
1) Teleporting or getting teleported by something after zapping Teleport Other at many dangerous monsters. 2) Not wearing ESP and getting overconfident with your movement. 3) Wiruin the Maelstorm. Paranoid level of detection and high stealth help with 2 and 3. |
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Apprentice
Join Date: May 2017
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Related question: Zappy has finally reached character level 50. Why not just cast Banishment on every letter of the alphabet and reap the rewards of all the scattered loot? He'd still have to kill all the named monsters, but they're the only ones that drop good loot now anyway.
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Prophet
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You can do that , though you won't get monster drops. It works fine in vaults (tho mass banishment is way more efficient for that.)
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Swordsman
Join Date: Jun 2010
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The only thing I would add...
If you're getting in situations where you are taking this many different breath attacks in the same turn, you are taking big risks... I'd suggest staying out of the line of sight of crowds, or groups bigger than... well... one, really. :-) |
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