New stat drain model rocks

[Pete Mack]

To recover from Time Hounds, I had to fight Uvatha in melee until I went down a level, then use !Restore Life. This is way better than repeatedly buying out the Alchemist shop!

[Estie]

Very true, but I still like to store the 1-2 mushrooms of vigor I usually find early in my home for time hound recovery.

[Pete Mack]

Originally Posted by Estie

Very true, but I still like to store the 1-2 mushrooms of vigor I usually find early in my home for time hound recovery.

But I am still buying out the Temple to get !CCW, especially since I can't seem to find any source of Teleport Other.

[Mondkalb]

Teleport other wands are remarkable rare in the newer versions.
They show up late in the dungeon and also very plus expensive and seldom in the bm.

[Pete Mack]

Originally Posted by Mondkalb

Teleport other wands are remarkable rare in the newer versions.
They show up late in the dungeon and also very plus expensive and seldom in the bm.

I haven't found a single one. I did fortunately find a Rod of TO instead! I was really suffering at dl 56 before that. I've been trying to buy out the Black Market, but it's selling insanely expensive junk. Earlier it carried good stuff like !CCW and the various Teleport scrolls. Now it's got ego wands: Drain Life, Acid Balls and Dragon's Frost

[takkaria]

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

To recover from Time Hounds, I had to fight Uvatha in melee until I went down a level, then use !Restore Life. This is way better than repeatedly buying out the Alchemist shop!

This hole is totally getting closed.

[Pete Mack]

Originally Posted by takkaria

This hole is totally getting closed.

Uh oh. I assumed this is by design!

[Raajaton]

I thought so too. I certainly have taken plenty advantage of it. It does make stat drains pretty trivial though.

Maybe it would make more sense to only recover drained stats the first time you reach a new level.

[Derakon]

Originally Posted by Raajaton

Maybe it would make more sense to only recover drained stats the first time you reach a new level.

That's what Takkaria meant. The intent is that early stat drain is comparatively non-dangerous (when restoration is not too far away), but late stat drain is something to be avoided. That way the early game is forgiving to newcomers and the late game is comparatively more dangerous. And sustains are more valuable.

[Bodhi]

Originally Posted by Derakon

That's what Takkaria meant. The intent is that early stat drain is comparatively non-dangerous (when restoration is not too far away), but late stat drain is something to be avoided. That way the early game is forgiving to newcomers and the late game is comparatively more dangerous. And sustains are more valuable.

Is it having that effect though? Because in the other topic on this, Saarn's response to a late game stat drain was to go to dlvl 3 and scum for a mushroom of vigor. That's not exactly dangerous