Intentionally making life hard for @

[malcontent]

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

Fists Only Challenge: @ may not use any weapon, launched missiles, or spells for the entire game and defeat Morgoth. Scrolls are permitted. I successfully did this back in the 3.2.x era, but doubt I could pull it off in the current version on the nightlies.

First of all, I'm amazed that this could ever be done!

But I'm also curious what about the current version makes this even more difficult?

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by malcontent

First of all, I'm amazed that this could ever be done!

But I'm also curious what about the current version makes this even more difficult?

For the blow by blow compubox entertainment, check out:
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=17057

In my opinion, the current version of Angband has gone a long way to returning the danger levels of pre-3.xx versions, without the grinding UI dangers.

[Angdrim]

No TO is not a challenge. Had to kill all the big uniques so that Morgoth couldn't summon them, and the Tarresque put up a good fight, but lacking TO didn't make much difference. Maybe next time I'll try no TO and no teleportation/teleport level. Angband is about picking your fights, maybe the thing to do is make it harder to pick them.

Not up for fists-only though.

Little question: I left the wimpy uniques alive on purpose so that Morgoth could summon them, but he never once used his summon unique spell. I had assumed that it works its way down, and if there aren't any nasties left you get the wimpy ones. But if Huan and friends aren't available, does he just never use it? (Or did Shagrat and friends luck out this time?)

[Thraalbee]

I recently got Smeagol as a nice surprise. He didnt help any of us but kept close to the action

[Ed_47569]

Originally Posted by Angdrim

Little question: I left the wimpy uniques alive on purpose so that Morgoth could summon them, but he never once used his summon unique spell. I had assumed that it works its way down, and if there aren't any nasties left you get the wimpy ones. But if Huan and friends aren't available, does he just never use it? (Or did Shagrat and friends luck out this time?)

He does summon them, although I never intentionally leave them alive. Sometimes I've missed Lagduf or one of the other orc uniques. It is quite amusing watching them get obliterated by Morgoth's own mana storms though.

[sffp]

Originally Posted by archolewa

Are we sure this is a challenge? Most of my deaths happen after reading a Deep Descent scroll. Personally I squash them as soon as I find then.

I use them as early escapes of last resort.

[wobbly]

yeah deep descent is the next best thing to tele-level. I occasionally pre read these if I really want to nab an object close to a dangerous monster. It's also one of the few ways an ironman priest can deal with an early cat pit.