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Old July 12, 2017, 18:45   #121
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That brings it up to 6 plausible (i.e. non-aether) monsters that breathe disenchantment, vs. 12 for shards. These are both pretty marginal elements.
It's not x vs. y. It is x+y vs. z.
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Old July 12, 2017, 19:12   #122
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It's not x vs. y. It is x+y vs. z.
I presented the information from monster.txt not to make an argument, just to provide data to help other people make their own judgements. I've checked out of the overall "shards vs. disenchantment" thing because I've presented my point, you've presented yours, and there's really nothing more to be gained. Neither of us believes the other is right and neither of us is able to convince the other, so we're done here. Agreed?
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Old July 12, 2017, 22:06   #123
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So what I'm hearing is for 4.2 shards and disenchantment both need to be more dangerous. Got it
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Old July 12, 2017, 22:39   #124
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So what I'm hearing is for 4.2 shards and disenchantment both need to be more dangerous. Got it
Sounds good to me!

Seriously though, aether vortices are missing BR_DISE, that's the most obvious error discovered.
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Old July 12, 2017, 23:45   #125
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Also, just checked the edit files, and storms of unmagic need to be way eviler, like in O. Add time and chaos breath, KILL_WALL...

Oh hey, almost forgot. Add Wiruin, just because.
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Old July 14, 2017, 13:32   #126
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You could always add Unmakers ala Sangband...
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You could always add Unmakers ala Sangband...
Sangband? I though those were from Hengband. Anyway, for those unfamiliar: KILL_WALL, breaths, big melee damage and BREED EXPLOSIVELY. Ugh, though I suppose it would be roughly the only situation where scrolls of "sterilization" are actually not worthless...
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