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Old April 10, 2018, 22:32   #1
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Is it wrong ...

.... to stand outside a vault and banish a bulk of the extraneous critters, before entering and teleporting the nasties and uniques, to plunder said vault of whatever scraps remain?

Asking for a friend.
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Old April 10, 2018, 22:42   #2
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I mean, the game allows you to do so, so, uh, not wrong, according to the game. In other variants, such as O, the game believes you should not, and prevents you from doing so.
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Old April 10, 2018, 23:25   #3
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Abuse of banish/mass-banish is extremely common for high-level mages; it's more or less your reward for surviving that long.

For everyone else, it's a sometimes-difficult decision of using up limited consumables vs. having to actually fight the monsters.
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Old April 11, 2018, 02:56   #4
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Abuse of banish/mass-banish is extremely common for high-level mages; it's more or less your reward for surviving that long.

For everyone else, it's a sometimes-difficult decision of using up limited consumables vs. having to actually fight the monsters.
Just because it's common doesn't mean it's morally acceptable. And said plunder got squat doodle. About a break-even prospect. Tracked down the teleported uniques,though, and bagged two CON potions plus a *heal* so no loss of anything amazing.

But can someone tell me why high-level priest books have kept on showing up since DL long-time-ago, but not the mage equivalent?
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Old April 11, 2018, 04:55   #5
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If the devs don't want you to do something, they have ways of encouraging you to not do it, such as making it impossible, unrewarding, or simply tedious. What's left in the game is tacitly accepted, so "officially OK" to the extent the devs are official anything. In short, it's all up to you whether or not you take advantage of it.
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Old April 11, 2018, 04:56   #6
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Because RNG don't care a teet about giving you what you need.
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Old April 11, 2018, 06:13   #7
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Just because it's common doesn't mean it's morally acceptable....
Seriously? Angband as the arbiter of morality? Let's just ignore the wholesale slaughter of every living (and undead) thing @ comes across, regardless of whether they be "good" or "evil".
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If the devs don't want you to do something, they have ways of encouraging you to not do it, such as making it impossible, unrewarding, or simply tedious. What's left in the game is tacitly accepted, so "officially OK" to the extent the devs are official anything. In short, it's all up to you whether or not you take advantage of it.
That sounds plausible. I was already going to ask whether the "movement tricks" as described by donalde are generally considered exploits or tactics. Your post has answered the question for me.

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Seriously? Angband as the arbiter of morality? Let's just ignore the wholesale slaughter of every living (and undead) thing @ comes across, regardless of whether they be "good" or "evil".
Well, in the end, whoever gets to L99 has waded through a lot of gore, bone, ghoul slime, etcoplasm, etc., and has either turned utterly psychopathic, evil, is suffering from PTSD or various combos of all three.
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