Customizing my Graphics Question

[Rivendell]

I like to go into the Display Feature section and customize my graphics; little diamonds for quartz veins, the little door symbols for the doors, and various colored blocks for the walls.

I'm trying to set up 3.3.2 the same way I had 3.2.0, but I'm running into some difficulty, and I'm hoping someone can help. I changed the symbols in the Display Feature Knowledge section, but when I play the game, the only time I see the blocks (my desired graphic) is when I'm in a room, or within the range of my light source. Otherwise, all the other graphics remain the old ascii ### symbols.

This didn't happen in 3.2.0. When I changed the graphics in the Knowledge section, the whole map changed accordingly.

Is there any way for me to have the graphics I want enabled for the whole map in 3.3.2?

I noticed when I changed the symbols in the Knowledge section that instead of there being only one symbol like in 3.2.0, there are three symbols in 3.3.2. I was only able to change the center symbol. (Hit v, scroll to desired symbol, hit enter) So, instead of ### it looks like #[block]#. Do I need to change all three of these symbols for it to work? And if so, how?

I also notice that there are a couple of options missing in 3.3.2. Map remembers all perma-lit and torch-lit grids. I have them enabled in 3.2.0. Could it be that these allowed the whole map to change?

I've been messing with it all night, and I'm stumped.

[Magnate]

The difference is that 3.3.2 distinguishes between three different lighting levels, so there are now three things to change for each graphic. This is why you're seeing the changes you want when in the range of your light source, and not otherwise - you've only changed one of the three. Unfortunately the UI for changing the three is, er, not very good. I think it should be possible from the knowledge menu, but I couldn't swear to that (never done it myself). It *is* possible by editing your pref files manually, but you obviously have to know the syntax. I hope someone will be able to help here by pasting an example from their own pref files, but if not I will try to provide one when I can (I'm at work at the mo).

[ghengiz]

Originally Posted by Magnate

It *is* possible by editing your pref files manually, but you obviously have to know the syntax. I hope someone will be able to help here by pasting an example from their own pref files, but if not I will try to provide one when I can (I'm at work at the mo).

this has been already answered by Nick some time ago
I quote him (note that he is first referring to save a pref file from the visual knowledge menu):

Originally Posted by Nick

You could try saving it to a pref file and then reloading that; if that's what you have already tried, you could actually go in and edit the font-win.prf file directly:

# Magma (slate / solid block)

F:50:2/127:1:A

...here the 50 is the index of the terrain (you can get this from terrain.txt in lib/edit), 2 is the colour (you can check what you want from feature knowledge) and 127 is the block character.

[Magnate]

Thanks - but if I'm not mistaken, Nick's helpful advice is from before the split into three lighting levels. So for each terrain there need to be three F: lines, one for each lighting level. To make things more complicated, things like permanent walls have more than one terrain character (I have no idea why).

But hopefully the general advice still holds, in that looking in terrain.txt will provide the right numbers for editing in the pref file.

[Rivendell]

Thank you for your help. I should probably add that I'm on Windows Vista, and I have that walls not showing up bug. I Changed name of the font-win.pref file to get the walls to work again.

I originally went this route with 3.2.0 because I couldn't unlock the font-win file to make changes to it via Nick's fix.

I was just thinking that maybe I was missing something painfully obvious with 3.3.2.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by Rivendell

I noticed when I changed the symbols in the Knowledge section that instead of there being only one symbol like in 3.2.0, there are three symbols in 3.3.2. I was only able to change the center symbol. (Hit v, scroll to desired symbol, hit enter) So, instead of ### it looks like #[block]#. Do I need to change all three of these symbols for it to work? And if so, how?

You should be able to press 'l' to cycle through the three lighting modes and change them individually. (I think the order from left to right is unlit, lit, torchlit, but I could be wrong.) Just to make it more horribly awkward, you have to press 'l' to cycle before you press 'v' to change the visuals, and it's not at all obvious that pressing 'l' has done anything until you pick a different symbol and you can see which one of the three changes.

[Rivendell]

Originally Posted by Nomad

You should be able to press 'l' to cycle through the three lighting modes and change them individually. (I think the order from left to right is unlit, lit, torchlit, but I could be wrong.) Just to make it more horribly awkward, you have to press 'l' to cycle before you press 'v' to change the visuals, and it's not at all obvious that pressing 'l' has done anything until you pick a different symbol and you can see which one of the three changes.

This did the trick! Lower case L! Now the entire screen is the way I like it. THANK YOU!

[Magnate]

Originally Posted by Rivendell

This did the trick! Lower case L! Now the entire screen is the way I like it. THANK YOU!

Wow, I'm so glad that worked. Thanks to Nomad and ghengiz for their assistance - we really must get this documented somewhere.