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Old April 6, 2018, 07:24   #461
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I had slowdowns too but they were gone after a reboot. Win10
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Old April 8, 2018, 13:56   #462
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Nick, a request, please order the spellbooks for purposes of ignoring. Prior to the feature branch, they were ordered, e.g., kelek's last. With the new classes, level feelings are set off as "superb" by books lower on the list for the class, even though a higher book does not, indicating a mis-ordering (or a mis-valuing) of the books. Not sure I'm expressing it very clearly, but I've been up late with insomnia.
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Old April 11, 2018, 05:24   #463
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So, it appears monsters are now immune from a stave of banishment if they are in a vault? It would be nice if the description for the stave and scroll would reflect that information. I also think this change kind of sucks.
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Old April 11, 2018, 08:23   #464
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So, it appears monsters are now immune from a stave of banishment if they are in a vault? It would be nice if the description for the stave and scroll would reflect that information. I also think this change kind of sucks.
They're not immune from luring out of the vault then banishing though...
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Old April 11, 2018, 17:58   #465
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They're not immune from luring out of the vault then banishing though...
Yeah, it still sucks. Screwing around with Q's and Z's and v's in a vault (or apparently even "special" rooms that don't have permanent walls, so hard to tell it is a "vault". Sucks, sucks, sucks.
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Old April 11, 2018, 18:00   #466
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Playing a dwarf paladin on the feature branch on angband.live.

What the H3$$!!! I just used "single combat" against the Balrog of Moria. Defeated him. But when the cell disappears, @ is faced with the same Balrog of Moria, at full health, in the same position as before invoking single combat. BUG!!!
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Old April 12, 2018, 02:43   #467
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Playing a dwarf paladin on the feature branch on angband.live.

What the H3$$!!! I just used "single combat" against the Balrog of Moria. Defeated him. But when the cell disappears, @ is faced with the same Balrog of Moria, at full health, in the same position as before invoking single combat. BUG!!!
I've been tossing up between two quite different responses, so I'll give you them both:
  1. Thank you for playing the new branch, and for reporting the bug. I will look into it when I get back to development (which I'm not really getting time for at the moment).
  2. Why on earth would you not expect bugs in a completely new game mechanic on an experimental branch?

You can choose to take notice of either, neither, or both of those responses
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Old April 12, 2018, 06:54   #468
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Why on earth would you not expect bugs in a completely new game mechanic on an experimental branch?
Just thought I was late enough to the party that paladins had pretty much already been worked out. Was going to work my way through the revamped classes and then tackle the new classes, expecting to be increasingly helpful finding bugs as I closed in on them. Been leaving the feature branch to experienced variant players as having, perhaps, better input given their experience. Hugo wanted me to play a dwarf paladin, so I started there. Gwarl said he sent you the savefile, so hopefully it will help. I don't know, it just has @ at the start of the encounter, only this time with less hitpoints since he already fought the battle through.
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Old April 12, 2018, 12:17   #469
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Gwarl said he sent you the savefile, so hopefully it will help.
I think the savefile did help, in an unexpected way.

A look at the message log indicates you actually used single combat on a greater balrog.

So good news for both of us - I have no bug to fix, and you can keep on playing

BTW, I though you might like to know that the vault near your character has the following comment from its author in the vaults file (it's originally from O):
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# This will probably be even tougher than fighting Morgoth.
# On the other hand, the rewards are /immense/.
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A look at the message log indicates you actually used single combat on a greater balrog.

So good news for both of us - I have no bug to fix, and you can keep on playing
I was almost certain I TO'd a greater balrog, then cast Single Combat, aimed it at The Balrog of Moria standing right next to @, fought the Unique in the cell, and bounced out to be facing him in the exact same position. Maybe I failed the TO? I'm an idiot...

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BTW, I though you might like to know that the vault near your character has the following comment from its author in the vaults file....
I don't recall ever seeing the particular vault before, or maybe skipped it in the past. Then again, given the foregoing incident with the Balrog, maybe I just don't have any memory at all. I'll give it a try...

EDIT: After a big scare when @ was frozen without getting any responsive turns, even though not paralyzed, and hps went down to 140 while surrounded by Greater Undead, it got unstuck in time and @ managed to clear out the vault. It was 'meh. Treasure feeling of 6, and just okay drops. (Gwarl said the freeze was the result of @ throwing an object, and the bug has already been reported).
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