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Old January 27, 2021, 10:29   #1
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Is speed too common with randarts?

Maybe it's just RNG being kind and a few extremely lucky games but: is speed more common than it used to be?

I'm typically pushing around +70 speed (hasted - which I will have an almost infinite ability to do) by the time I fight Morgy. With non-randarts it is slightly lower, but I can only play randarts these days.


Have a look at this half-troll rogue I'm currently playing... nearly every slot is hasting him. I've got a helmet with +5 speed and a bow with +3 speed at home too, but need telepathy and cold immunity for now.

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Old January 27, 2021, 14:27   #2
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I am not entirely convinced by your argument when I see 18/120 CON.
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Old January 28, 2021, 00:31   #3
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Im not sure I agree that with standarts speed is only slightly lower. I only play with standarts (I like the additional lore, and feel like randarts are OP), and I almost always have to wear at least one ring of speed to get within a Speed Potion of Morgoth. Its an exciting run indeed when I get my permanent speed up to Morgoth without leaving giant gaps in my other defenses.
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Old January 28, 2021, 11:06   #4
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I am not entirely convinced by your argument when I see 18/120 CON.
Haha, busted. Nice of you not to mention the glaring holes in my status effect resistances too.

The funny thing is, I sometimes get a bit obsessed with increasing my speed at the expense of other things. But +70 speed isn't such the advantage I always imagine it will be.
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Old January 28, 2021, 12:00   #5
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However, speed on shield and gloves is a bit dubious. That doesn't remotely match the standart model--znx the only way to get speed on armor normally is ego dragon armor.
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Old January 30, 2021, 05:11   #6
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minor speed bonuses are very common with randarts and a great early source of speed.
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Old February 9, 2021, 00:11   #7
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I have never had 70 hasted speed in any game of Angband I've ever played, no matter the version.
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Old February 9, 2021, 02:46   #8
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I have never had 70 hasted speed in any game of Angband I've ever played, no matter the version.
ToME has a haste spell modified by level; typically a sorcerer will have +10 or so base speed but run around with +70 buffed all the time.
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Adjusting randart capacities to make them more usable and specifically durable is an extraordinary thought.

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Old March 12, 2021, 08:31   #10
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I have never had 70 hasted speed in any game of Angband I've ever played, no matter the version.
Same for me, though maybe I could have been, but other considerations like resistances, ESP, Stat (esp. CON), stealth are usually more important than a bit more speed (above 20).
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