Sauron optional?

Zikke · April 30, 2010, 23:00

On my ranger I just went to dlvl 99 and cast Create Stairs and it was a down stairs that takes me to Morgoth... did I miss something?

r1967

edit: I just killed him and he dropped the staircase like normal, but I didn't have to.

Nemesis · May 3, 2010, 07:24

Can you skip Morgoth this way too? Players could actually gain from doing so, as stuff like Wrath of God and The One Ring aren't native before level 100, and looking for them on that floor is probably a bit dangerous due to Morgoth's wall-eating ability (btw, from how far can Morgoth notice the player?).

Zikke · May 3, 2010, 07:27

No it's not working on dlvl 100. I'm going to try to find a trap door or other such avenue

PowerDiver · May 3, 2010, 08:43

Unrelated, but you reminded me, should scrolls of deep descent not be generated at DL 98 or DL 99?

d_m · May 3, 2010, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Zikke

On my ranger I just went to dlvl 99 and cast Create Stairs and it was a down stairs that takes me to Morgoth... did I miss something?

I thought I could replicate this using debug mode, but currently it's not working for me, I get an up staircase every time. You said you were just on level 99, just cast the spell as normal, got a down staircase, right?

EDIT: Looking closely, it seems like the is_quest(lvl) function would have to misfire for this to work (or you'd have to have the "player depth" be 0). I wonder if there is some way for level 99 to be erroneously marked as "completed" without actually having killed Sauron.

Zikke · May 3, 2010, 16:31

I can't get anything to work to get past lvl 100 (as it should be). I don't know why it worked on 99. To be honest, I didn't even try to do it conciously; I actually was just diving to the bottom and all of a sudden noticed Morgoth in the room with me... I can't replicate it again; maybe just a fluke one-time thing.

I do have a penchant for finding myself in strange places like Nowhere Town.

ClaytonAguiar · May 3, 2010, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Zikke

On my ranger I just went to dlvl 99 and cast Create Stairs and it was a down stairs that takes me to Morgoth... did I miss something?

Did you come back to lvl 99 and met Sauron again? You cast Create Stairs just after arriving lvl99?

I asked these questions because Sauron might got killed by other monsters while you were wandering/hacking/slashing through lvl99 (of course, by breathing attacks).

Zikke · May 3, 2010, 19:46

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Originally Posted by ClaytonAguiar

Did you come back to lvl 99 and met Sauron again? You cast Create Stairs just after arriving lvl99?

I asked these questions because Sauron might got killed by other monsters while you were wandering/hacking/slashing through lvl99 (of course, by breathing attacks).

He was definitely still alive. I went back for him and killed him after I posted the first message just to make sure the monster memory log wasn't flawed.

Seany C · May 3, 2010, 20:35

Silly question but what variant are you playing - V or something else? The level mechanic might well be a bit different in FA/O...

Zikke · May 4, 2010, 00:02

It's the newest nightly version of V, r1967 I think.

I'm not worried about it if I and nobody else can recreate it. Just wanted to post in case others had seen it.

April 30, 2010, 23:00	#1
Zikke Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,068	Sauron optional? bug On my ranger I just went to dlvl 99 and cast Create Stairs and it was a down stairs that takes me to Morgoth... did I miss something? r1967 edit: I just killed him and he dropped the staircase like normal, but I didn't have to. __________________ A(3.1.0b) CWS "Fyren_V" NEW L:50 DL:127 A++ R+++ Sp+ w:The Great Axe of Eonwe A/FA W H- D c-- !f PV+++ s? d P++ M+ C- S+ I- !So B ac++ GHB? SQ? !RQ V F: Last edited by Zikke; May 1, 2010 at 06:56.

May 3, 2010, 07:27	#3
Zikke Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,068	No it's not working on dlvl 100. I'm going to try to find a trap door or other such avenue __________________ A(3.1.0b) CWS "Fyren_V" NEW L:50 DL:127 A++ R+++ Sp+ w:The Great Axe of Eonwe A/FA W H- D c-- !f PV+++ s? d P++ M+ C- S+ I- !So B ac++ GHB? SQ? !RQ V F:

May 3, 2010, 16:31	#6
Zikke Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,068	I can't get anything to work to get past lvl 100 (as it should be). I don't know why it worked on 99. To be honest, I didn't even try to do it conciously; I actually was just diving to the bottom and all of a sudden noticed Morgoth in the room with me... I can't replicate it again; maybe just a fluke one-time thing. I do have a penchant for finding myself in strange places like Nowhere Town. __________________ A(3.1.0b) CWS "Fyren_V" NEW L:50 DL:127 A++ R+++ Sp+ w:The Great Axe of Eonwe A/FA W H- D c-- !f PV+++ s? d P++ M+ C- S+ I- !So B ac++ GHB? SQ? !RQ V F:

May 4, 2010, 00:02	#10
Zikke Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,068	It's the newest nightly version of V, r1967 I think. I'm not worried about it if I and nobody else can recreate it. Just wanted to post in case others had seen it. __________________ A(3.1.0b) CWS "Fyren_V" NEW L:50 DL:127 A++ R+++ Sp+ w:The Great Axe of Eonwe A/FA W H- D c-- !f PV+++ s? d P++ M+ C- S+ I- !So B ac++ GHB? SQ? !RQ V F:

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May 3, 2010, 07:24	#2
Nemesis Adept Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 137	Can you skip Morgoth this way too? Players could actually gain from doing so, as stuff like Wrath of God and The One Ring aren't native before level 100, and looking for them on that floor is probably a bit dangerous due to Morgoth's wall-eating ability (btw, from how far can Morgoth notice the player?).

May 3, 2010, 08:43	#4
PowerDiver Prophet Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,712	Unrelated, but you reminded me, should scrolls of deep descent not be generated at DL 98 or DL 99?

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Seany C Swordsman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Deepest, darkest Yorkshire... Posts: 283 Donated: $20	Silly question but what variant are you playing - V or something else? The level mechanic might well be a bit different in FA/O...

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