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Old June 30, 2021, 03:52   #1
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bakabakaband

This appears to be a Japanese variant of Hengband; it also references Deeangband (or possibly D'angband), which seems to be either an ancestor or a previous name.

Anyone know anything about it?
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Old June 30, 2021, 05:35   #2
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First I'm hearing of it.

Without plugging the entire readme into Jisho/Google Translate, I'm not seeing anything about Deeangand; I am seeing something about Magic the Gathering though, along with mentions of Sil and Zangband.

I also notice it's mostly been coded in C++ according to Git, rather than C.
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Old June 30, 2021, 23:10   #3
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The owner of that repository is one of the current maintainers for Hengband. I don't know if there's any more overlap between Hengband and bakabakaband than that.

As for the C++, the development version of Hengband also moved to C++ a few months ago.
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Old January 10, 2022, 21:32   #4
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Okay, from what I can understand (from the manual files):

It's Hengband, except with way more joke/meme material. It's designed to be unfair, but it also has built in 'cheat death' option with unlimited uses. There's also a mechanic called 'time-space destruction' which causes 'nasty' monsters (very strong for their level) to get generated. The severity of this mechanic can increase through:

-Passage of time
-Resting at an inn
-Using *Destruction*
-Using Alter Reality as a non-Amberite

The 'Magic the Gathering' part is how the author refers to the joke content as 'silver-bordered' (Silver bordered cards in MtG are from joke sets). Hengband does have some actual monsters from MtG, though, and this variant adds more (along with material from other sources, like Skyrim, or just Hengband memes).
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Old January 10, 2022, 21:59   #5
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thanks for info, added to the table https://tangaria.com/variants/
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Old January 11, 2022, 00:50   #6
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I haven't tried it, but I really enjoy the Google translations of the author's descriptions; they possibly also offer some insight into the Japanese dev or player view of Hengband. From a post in another thread, on a Touhou-themed variant http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=11040, in which I was semi-inappropriately babbling about this and some of author sibakane-works aka Deskull's other variants (including the aforementioned D'angband); thanks to Cryptomaniac's post I now understand what the "silver frame" MtG reference means:


Bakabakaband (aka 'stupid stupid savagery')
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It is a variant "stupid savagery" that is derived from strange savagery and aims at a dirty and horrifying nuclear test site. "Those who go through this gate should throw away all good sense, and suck."
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Hengband started to mess around with the source code about 10 years ago, and while repeating odd refactorings, hradish's amendment and Hourier's large scale in the last two years. Through refactoring, we're finally stripping away the greasy shit code of 30 years. As of the beginning of 2021, we finally moved to the 3.0.0 Alpha version with the addition of old production teams such as dis- and Habu, and new ones such as taotao, and put refactoring and debugging on track while using the thankful service called GitHub. I am. This fix is ​​still in progress and is very delicate.

Stupid stupid savagery repeats a crappy implementation to literally do stupid (only repository management remains as clean as possible), benefiting from those careful modifications. The foundation of the 3.0.0 series, revisiting the new elements that I had tried with the old source version (fork from Hengband 1.X series) of the variant "D'angband" that the author had failed in the past . It is to put it back on.
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you may be killed instantly by taking damage that is two orders of magnitude different from HP. But rest assured. In this variant, the "Deceive Death" mode, which was originally unlocked only in Wizard mode, will be unlocked an infinite number of times in exchange for a slight progress penalty. No matter how much death the player may die, he can be revived with the shouts of everyone who was born in a certain Touhou voice drama project. We did it, Tae-chan!
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From the beginning, * band roguelikes are murder-robbery of Mago-grandfather, one of Tolkien's beloved pastoral symbols, from the Angband stage . It was full of rugged material on the time axis. Therefore, in the ancient times of the Silmarillion story, there are variants such as sil that emphasizes the reproduction of the anecdotes of Beren and Lucien, and for the elderly serious Tolkien fans, the nature of * band roguelikes. Even if I talked a little about it, I was able to put in a lot of excitement.

After that, the motive was Zang, which is said to be "Www with the nine princes of Amber instead of Nazgul", and from there, a strange idiot that included a large amount of Japanese original material was born. It must be said that the silver frame elements of Magic the Gathering are lined up in parallel with the serious exchange of life and loneliness in that world view . Yes, so it's foolish and foolish, and as I've repeated from this declaration, the desperately dirty material that is the keyword of "the example" is mercilessly passed through. Also, even in the classic TRPG system from the past years, there will be various things that are said to be who will use such a monster-painted supplement.

However, I think that the author will get tired of such things, so I may seriously implement monsters and items that could be made into the reserve army of the next version of Hengband. There may be, but it's still fundamentally dirty, so don't expect it.

Please enjoy it to your heart's content based on the above. Let's get shit quickly.
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Old January 11, 2022, 09:59   #7
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Soon we will have official description in English

https://github.com/sikabane-works/ba...scussions/1706
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Soon we will have official description in English

https://github.com/sikabane-works/ba...scussions/1706
Nice! Looking forward to it 'D'
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Old January 18, 2022, 22:26   #9
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Author of bakabakaband posted the description in English:
https://github.com/sikabane-works/ba...p/README_en.md

This variant got really funny name In English it is: "stupidstupidband"
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Admirable clarity of purpose ^_^
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