[Un/FA] Nowhere town... aargh!!!

[andrewdoull]

Nowhere town has just invaded Unangband SVN!!!!

I wonder how it got in there... clearly it can't be stopped.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by andrewdoull

Nowhere town has just invaded Unangband SVN!!!!

I wonder how it got in there... clearly it can't be stopped.

Cool. I always like to see my innovations taken up by other variants...

[Daven_26d1]

Nowhere town??

[Seany C]

It's a magical place that arrives in FAa (and Un now?) when a @ tries to access an illegal level (i.e. one that the code doesn't allow for)...

[Daven_26d1]

Oh, I see...

A bit like what I reported here then?

http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=348

I did think Andrew was watching his threads more closely, but I guess I have to report major bugs like this more directly in future...

...berlios.de best for you el maintani?

[Seany C]

This one?

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Sometimes (seems to be certain dungeons, not intermittent) when recalling or using a magical staircase, your character finds him/herself on an "<" on entering the top level map, away from the ">" that leads to the dungeon. In Trollshaw forest (tested Trollshaw a few times and this always happens), I was able to reach level 3, then 2, 1, 0, -1 and -2 by climbing stairs. Oooops! Levels 1-3 were the Trollshaw outdoor map, but with "arena-level" rooms (ie no corridors were visible because the map started open) levels above that were empty Outdoor map but still had gold, monsters etc. I saved at level -2 and this broke my savefile, though I did hang onto the savefile.
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Sounds similar - if I understand it correctly (Nick?!), in FAa, "Nowhere Town" is a default response to the player trying to commit an illegal action (such as going upstairs to Level -1) which stops the game from crashing altogether - it shouldn't break your savefile and it should be possible to go back 'down' to DL0 and normality again, though. I've not had a chance to try Un yet so I don't know how Andrew's handled it there...

[Psi]

Except you are stuck in Nowhere Town unless you have a means of recall.

[Seany C]

Ah- I've never found it yet so I assumed that it had stairs back to DL Zero...
maybe it ought to include a shop containing one (100% discounted) Word of Recall...

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Seany C

Sounds similar - if I understand it correctly (Nick?!), in FAa, "Nowhere Town" is a default response to the player trying to commit an illegal action (such as going upstairs to Level -1) which stops the game from crashing altogether - it shouldn't break your savefile and it should be possible to go back 'down' to DL0 and normality again, though.

Yeah, that's about right. As Psi says, though, you can't get out without recall, as there are no stairs. And at present there is no record of anyone finding Nowhere Town in 0.3.0 (although it has shown up in notes...)

[Bandobras]

Un Nowhere Town is way better than that: you have 8 shops so you should be able to buy WOR. It probably even has townfolk you can kill for money (until this is fixed) to save for that WOR. There is probably a problem here, though --- WOR will take you back to the top level of your current wilderness --- the Nowhere Town in this case. I'd like WOR to take you to your hometown instead, to save wilderness travel (not that it's too difficult now that you cannot starve when traveling (until fixed, of course)).

Congratulations, in advance, to the first person that arrives in Nowhere Town in Un (without source/save tweaking). I have 2 ideas how this could be done.

The bug with stairs up in wilderness is fixed in SVN, so this will not work.