Angband.oook.cz
Angband.oook.cz
AboutVariantsLadderForumCompetitionComicScreenshotsFunniesLinks

Go Back   Angband Forums > Angband > Sil

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old January 16, 2014, 02:24   #1
Bill Peterson
Adept
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Flyover country
Posts: 161
Bill Peterson is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Bill Peterson
Question Stumped about the dump

I'm trying to learn something about how the better players allocate points/exp. by looking at dumps from the ladder meaning of the numbers eludes me. Stats I think I can decipher, I can see what looks like the starting allocation and I can assume the rest are equipment bonuses and purchased increases or temporary increases.

The skills display is the one that has me befuddled. On the dump I'm looking at now, named "elliptical" I don't see anything that looks like a starting allocation and there's a column of +7 to every skill.

Is there a decoder post somewhere? I've read the manual and quite a few posts here, and searched the forum for both "dump" and "character dump" with no joy.
Bill Peterson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 16, 2014, 06:02   #2
Psi
Knight
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Surrey, UK
Age: 47
Posts: 870
Psi is on a distinguished road
There is nothing in the dump that records skill allocation other than the current values. Asking questions on the ladder dump or the forum is probably your best bet to finding out how players allocate for particular builds.
Psi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 16, 2014, 08:12   #3
Bill Peterson
Adept
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Flyover country
Posts: 161
Bill Peterson is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Bill Peterson
Thanks, but that's not really the question I was asking. There are plenty of posts about initial allocations and the dumps show the progression of abilities.

What I'm asking is what are the column descriptions of the columns of numbers making up the stat and skill totals.

Since posting I've experimented at character creation and looked at more dumps and think I've figured much of it out.

The 4 stats look to be made up of the initial allocation + equipment bonuses + I'm assuming stat boosts from abilities

The 8 skills look to be made up of amounts bought with experience + amounts from Dex and Grace + equipment effects? + I still don't know about the last column.
Bill Peterson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 16, 2014, 09:00   #4
taptap
Knight
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 710
taptap is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Peterson View Post
Thanks, but that's not really the question I was asking. There are plenty of posts about initial allocations and the dumps show the progression of abilities.

What I'm asking is what are the column descriptions of the columns of numbers making up the stat and skill totals.

Since posting I've experimented at character creation and looked at more dumps and think I've figured much of it out.

The 4 stats look to be made up of the initial allocation + equipment bonuses + I'm assuming stat boosts from abilities

The 8 skills look to be made up of amounts bought with experience + amounts from Dex and Grace + equipment effects? + I still don't know about the last column.
You are right for the stats. Temporary stat changes are in the last column as well, e.g. from potions, herbs of rage. For the skills you have proficiency/affinity bonus (blades, archery + 1 skill for elves, axes + 1 skill for naugrim etc.) or penalties in the last column together with ability/temporary effects like song of slaying bonus, versatility bonus, song of staying will bonus, song of aule smithing bonus, stealth modus modifier etc. Bonus that depends on the target or your own movement, isn't shown there but only in the combat roll window, i.e. assassination, focus, concentration modifiers.

Last edited by taptap; January 16, 2014 at 09:12.
taptap is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
YACD - What to keep and what to dump perdaniel Vanilla 6 August 26, 2011 20:31
Where to find a crash dump? Starhawk Development 4 July 1, 2011 19:03
File Dump Error Batanu44 Vanilla 2 October 13, 2009 00:01
I'm stumped. gglibertine Vanilla 4 September 21, 2008 21:22
How do I do a character dump? quaxocal Oook! 6 July 4, 2007 20:54


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:07.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.