tiles by default

dos350 · September 5, 2012, 04:21

nn 4it my friends

dos350 · September 5, 2012, 12:06

if u vote, please post ur reasoning

this is NOT a s3cr3t ball0t

PowerWyrm · September 5, 2012, 12:20

It's already the case for 3.4 (Shockbolt tiles are the default).

Timo Pietilä · September 5, 2012, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerWyrm

It's already the case for 3.4 (Shockbolt tiles are the default).

Unfortunately. Fortunately changing back to ascii isn't too hard.

donalde · September 5, 2012, 19:21

No thanks, tiles make game 'untidy'

ekolis · September 5, 2012, 19:45

I think having tiles on by default would definitely make the game more attractive to new players, as well as reduce the flood of "dood how do i turn on teh tilez" posts... well, OK, there's no such flood!

And seriously, isn't being accessible to newbies a far better goal than avoiding making veterans change one lousy option when installing the game?

Derakon · September 5, 2012, 20:54

False dichotomy. The proper way to handle this and other similar problems is to guide the user through setting up the interface the first time they run the game. Let the user make an informed decision instead of making it for them and then forcing them to seek out the appropriate menu option(s) to change it back if they don't like your default.

joelsanda · September 6, 2012, 03:22

... but would love to see Vanilla or a variant to not throw at least one error in the list of tiles in the menu ;-)

Quendus · September 6, 2012, 10:02

I need a large map display so that I don't get surprised by offscreen breath. ASCII takes the least screen space per tile, so it allows the largest map display.
Unless game mechanics change so that the range from which monsters can take action is a lot smaller, the need for ASCII won't change.

PowerWyrm · September 6, 2012, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quendus

I need a large map display so that I don't get surprised by offscreen breath. ASCII takes the least screen space per tile, so it allows the largest map display.
Unless game mechanics change so that the range from which monsters can take action is a lot smaller, the need for ASCII won't change.

I don't know exactly about V, but in my variant, when using the Win32 client and choosing ASCII/small font (5x8 or 6x10)/maximized window, you can get the full dungeon on the screen. This is a huge advantage over using a tileset which will display a very small area around the player...

View Poll Results: would u like 2 see tiles by dfault over ascii
yes 64x64	6	23.08%
yes any	3	11.54%
no, no way lol!	17	65.38%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

September 5, 2012, 04:21	#1
dos350 Knight Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: nimbin, australia Posts: 546	tiles by default nn 4it my friends __________________ ~eek Reality hits you -more- S+++++++++++++++++++

September 5, 2012, 12:06	#2
dos350 Knight Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: nimbin, australia Posts: 546	if u vote, please post ur reasoning this is NOT a s3cr3t ball0t __________________ ~eek Reality hits you -more- S+++++++++++++++++++

September 5, 2012, 12:20	#3
PowerWyrm Prophet Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,966	It's already the case for 3.4 (Shockbolt tiles are the default). __________________ PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

September 5, 2012, 19:45	#6
ekolis Knight Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA Age: 39 Posts: 919	I think having tiles on by default would definitely make the game more attractive to new players, as well as reduce the flood of "dood how do i turn on teh tilez" posts... well, OK, there's no such flood! And seriously, isn't being accessible to newbies a far better goal than avoiding making veterans change one lousy option when installing the game? __________________ You read the scroll labeled NOBIMUS UPSCOTI... You are surrounded by a stasis field! The tengu tries to teleport, but fails!

September 5, 2012, 19:21	#5
donalde Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hellsinki, Finland Posts: 86	No thanks, tiles make game 'untidy'

September 5, 2012, 20:54	#7
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,022	False dichotomy. The proper way to handle this and other similar problems is to guide the user through setting up the interface the first time they run the game. Let the user make an informed decision instead of making it for them and then forcing them to seek out the appropriate menu option(s) to change it back if they don't like your default.

September 6, 2012, 03:22	#8
joelsanda Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rocky Mountains, USA Posts: 84	I always use tiles ... ... but would love to see Vanilla or a variant to not throw at least one error in the list of tiles in the menu ;-)

September 6, 2012, 10:02	#9
Quendus Scout Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 32	I need a large map display so that I don't get surprised by offscreen breath. ASCII takes the least screen space per tile, so it allows the largest map display. Unless game mechanics change so that the range from which monsters can take action is a lot smaller, the need for ASCII won't change.

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