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Derakon · October 31, 2018, 15:42

...and I wouldn't do the Khazad-Dum home quest at all, it's seriously unpleasant.

The problem with quests is that they often have "unfair" layouts. For example, one of the quests is just a big open room with a bunch of monsters, and sure, most of them are melee, but not all of them are. If you don't have a good way to limit how many monsters you're fighting, it's easy to get overwhelmed. And in quest levels, your usual escapes like Teleport Level or Destruction don't work.

So it can be very dangerous to go into a quest if you don't know what to expect. Once you've learned how the quest works, you can prepare and know with some confidence whether or not you're ready for it, but that first character, going in blind, is potentially in for a very rough time. The quest difficulty level indicators are only an extremely rough estimate.

wobbly · October 31, 2018, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Derakon

So it can be very dangerous to go into a quest if you don't know what to expect. Once you've learned how the quest works, you can prepare and know with some confidence whether or not you're ready for it, but that first character, going in blind, is potentially in for a very rough time. The quest difficulty level indicators are only an extremely rough estimate.

If it's anything like the PCB-like quests (likely considering some are common to both variants) then difficulty levels assume you know the quest & are prepared in advance. They're real in terms of summons/loot drops but an underestimate in terms of difficulty level.

Derakon · October 31, 2018, 16:32

Incidentally, quests are one very good reason to pick up an ability that lets you generate LOS-obstructing terrain. Grow Trees, Stone Prison, and Thaumaturgy 'Blast - wall creation' spells are all ridiculously useful.

Pete Mack · October 31, 2018, 17:48

Or unless you are an archer with +20 crossbow skill, and a nice stack of ego ammo. (It is easy to make it yourself.) Enchant an ordinary crossbow to +7, set phaser to mass slaughter, and start mowing down everything in sight. In any case, there are a number of quests that are easy to do before DL 30 if you have good ranges combat. Killing Uvatha, for example, is trivial with a good bow, a big stack of ?phase door, and !speed.

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October 31, 2018, 15:42	#11
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,024	...and I wouldn't do the Khazad-Dum home quest at all, it's seriously unpleasant. The problem with quests is that they often have "unfair" layouts. For example, one of the quests is just a big open room with a bunch of monsters, and sure, most of them are melee, but not all of them are. If you don't have a good way to limit how many monsters you're fighting, it's easy to get overwhelmed. And in quest levels, your usual escapes like Teleport Level or Destruction don't work. So it can be very dangerous to go into a quest if you don't know what to expect. Once you've learned how the quest works, you can prepare and know with some confidence whether or not you're ready for it, but that first character, going in blind, is potentially in for a very rough time. The quest difficulty level indicators are only an extremely rough estimate.

October 31, 2018, 16:32	#13
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,024	Incidentally, quests are one very good reason to pick up an ability that lets you generate LOS-obstructing terrain. Grow Trees, Stone Prison, and Thaumaturgy 'Blast - wall creation' spells are all ridiculously useful.

October 31, 2018, 17:48	#14
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,979 Donated: $40	Or unless you are an archer with +20 crossbow skill, and a nice stack of ego ammo. (It is easy to make it yourself.) Enchant an ordinary crossbow to +7, set phaser to mass slaughter, and start mowing down everything in sight. In any case, there are a number of quests that are easy to do before DL 30 if you have good ranges combat. Killing Uvatha, for example, is trivial with a good bow, a big stack of ?phase door, and !speed.

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