roguelike keyset remapping

dionysian · November 20, 2019, 17:33

I've never used the roguelike keyset much, but lately I've been trying to get comfortable with it. Kind of using it to get used to vim cursor movement keys, but that's another story

There are a few mappings that I found didn't make sense of differed from the standard keyset for no good reason.

Not sure why wands and rods are reversed... I swapped them back... 'a'im a want and 'z'ap a rod.

'a' -> 'z'
'z' -> 'a'

I rotated the commands based around the 'v' key. I never use the version command, and rarely throw once I have a ranged weapon. Now repeat command requires a single keypress using a dominant finger, rather than a combo.

'v' -> '^V'
'V' -> 'v'
'^V' -> 'V'

By default, 'f' is unused, 't' uses your ranged weapon, 'T' unequips items... just seems weird. I kept unequipping items when trying to tunnel...

'f' -> 't'
't' -> 'T'
'T' -> '^T'

I think there are some others that I'm forgetting. Interested in hearing some other suggestions, too.

fph · November 21, 2019, 08:41

As a fellow roguelike keyset user, I like these changes. D (disarm) and ^d (squelch item) are another pair that could be swapped in my view. I rarely use disarm since walking into a trap has the same effect.

dionysian · November 21, 2019, 14:28

Excellent suggestion. I like the symmetry there, with the capital being a "stronger" version of the lower case command.

fph · November 21, 2019, 15:21

I'd be happy to discuss other possible improvements to this keyset and put together a pull request afterwards, if Nick confirms that we can make such a change without fear of breaking someone's workflow and muscle memory.

archolewa · November 22, 2019, 00:40

So long as it's an option. "roguelike" vs. "sane-rogulike" or something. The current keyset is baked into my muscle memory, and I would be mildly cranky if I had to relearn it.

dionysian · November 26, 2019, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by fph

I'd be happy to discuss other possible improvements to this keyset and put together a pull request afterwards, if Nick confirms that we can make such a change without fear of breaking someone's workflow and muscle memory.

That would be excellent. I spent some time digging around in the code and I couldn't really find where the keymaps were defined.

Pete Mack · November 26, 2019, 18:59

They are in lib/customize/pref.prf, starting at line 282.

https://github.com/angband/angband/b...omize/pref.prf

November 20, 2019, 17:33	#1
dionysian Apprentice Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Washington, DC Metropolitan Area Age: 40 Posts: 77	roguelike keyset remapping I've never used the roguelike keyset much, but lately I've been trying to get comfortable with it. Kind of using it to get used to vim cursor movement keys, but that's another story There are a few mappings that I found didn't make sense of differed from the standard keyset for no good reason. Not sure why wands and rods are reversed... I swapped them back... 'a'im a want and 'z'ap a rod. 'a' -> 'z' 'z' -> 'a' I rotated the commands based around the 'v' key. I never use the version command, and rarely throw once I have a ranged weapon. Now repeat command requires a single keypress using a dominant finger, rather than a combo. 'v' -> '^V' 'V' -> 'v' '^V' -> 'V' By default, 'f' is unused, 't' uses your ranged weapon, 'T' unequips items... just seems weird. I kept unequipping items when trying to tunnel... 'f' -> 't' 't' -> 'T' 'T' -> '^T' I think there are some others that I'm forgetting. Interested in hearing some other suggestions, too. __________________ Oh, Mr. Speaker, I had underestimated the tenderness of the feelings of the members opposite. --Barney Frank

November 21, 2019, 08:41	#2
fph Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pisa / DL0 Posts: 1,017	As a fellow roguelike keyset user, I like these changes. D (disarm) and ^d (squelch item) are another pair that could be swapped in my view. I rarely use disarm since walking into a trap has the same effect. __________________ Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse. -- You read a scroll labeled 'lol gtfo' of Teleport Level.

November 21, 2019, 14:28	#3
dionysian Apprentice Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Washington, DC Metropolitan Area Age: 40 Posts: 77	Excellent suggestion. I like the symmetry there, with the capital being a "stronger" version of the lower case command. __________________ Oh, Mr. Speaker, I had underestimated the tenderness of the feelings of the members opposite. --Barney Frank

November 21, 2019, 15:21	#4
fph Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pisa / DL0 Posts: 1,017	I'd be happy to discuss other possible improvements to this keyset and put together a pull request afterwards, if Nick confirms that we can make such a change without fear of breaking someone's workflow and muscle memory. __________________ Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse. -- You read a scroll labeled 'lol gtfo' of Teleport Level.

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November 22, 2019, 00:40	#5
archolewa Swordsman Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Midwest Age: 34 Posts: 398	So long as it's an option. "roguelike" vs. "sane-rogulike" or something. The current keyset is baked into my muscle memory, and I would be mildly cranky if I had to relearn it.

November 26, 2019, 18:59	#7
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,703 Donated: $40	They are in lib/customize/pref.prf, starting at line 282. https://github.com/angband/angband/b...omize/pref.prf

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