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Old November 15, 2016, 10:19   #1
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Infravision vs Telepathy?

Are they the same thing? Are there things detected by Infra that aren't detected by Telepathy and vice versa?

Google tells me Infravision lets you see in the dark. So in other words, if you are in a dark hallway and there are things beyond your light that are in your line of sight you'll see them? How many squares is 100 feet?

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Old November 15, 2016, 10:50   #2
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Are they the same thing? Are there things detected by Infra that aren't detected by Telepathy and vice versa?

Google tells me Infravision lets you see in the dark. So in other words, if you are in a dark hallway and there are things beyond your light that are in your line of sight you'll see them? How many squares is 100 feet?
They are not the same thing. Think of infravision as having an infrared scope. You can see heat signatures, so if a monster is cold-blooded (or undead, or nonliving) they aren't going to be seen with infravision. Telepathy detects thought. Some monsters that don't show up on infravision, do have thought and will show up with telepathy (think skull-druj, for example). Whereas some warm-blooded monsters don't have thought, or much thought, so some monsters will not show up with telepathy, or will only be detected sporadically.

Each "square" of floor tile is 10 feet.
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Thanks! Makes perfect sense. Much appreciated.
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Old November 15, 2016, 11:28   #4
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Thanks! Makes perfect sense. Much appreciated.
Telepathy is far superior in most cases.
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Telepathy is far superior in most cases.
Mostly because it doesnt require LOS.
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Mostly because it doesnt require LOS.
And its range is max viewing range, whereas infravision rarely gets even as far as the 100 feet quoted by Grotug.

Infravision is still useful early on, when detection is rare and most monsters don't have ranged attacks. It's also handy for the "descend to new level, in a dark room full of hounds just outside my light radius" situation, rare though that might be. But yeah, as soon as you get telepathy, infravision is effectively completely outclassed. There just aren't many warm-blooded mindless enemies out there, and I think all of them are inconsequential things like giant white mice.
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Mushroom of Secon Sight man ... far out, far out.
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@Derakon--the big one for Infravision is 'Q'.
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@Derakon--the big one for Infravision is 'Q'.
You need detection for Q anyway. They all act at a distance, so by the time they're in infravision range, they'll already have summoned enough monsters that you know they're there.
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The reason I asked is because my latest charachter's infravision is 100 feet and I have the option to don Tharandul (sp!) with telepathy and PBlind or serenity crown with pstun and pconf.
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